Hi Mark,

"Feedburning" your RSS feed will, among other things, provide you with some
stats you may not currently have access to.  There are both pros and cons to
using the service, however, and you may wish to do some more research before
jumping on the Feedburned bandwagon.  (For example, some folks like to
produce their own feed so that they'll always have control of it -- just in
case Feedburner should ever disappear or disappoint with its service.)

Anyway, I believe I understand most of the points you're making, and I also
agree with most of them.  Though I've been subscribed to this Yahoo!Group
since 2004, I didn't really begin to read and post to this group until late
2005.  I guess I'm a part of this community, but I don't feel quite the
sense of loyalty that I suspect some of the others have for this community,
and so I'm looking for other placing to find similiar communities.  I don't
mean any disrespect for this group -- I simply feel the need to dip my toes
in other waters, such as the YouTube and Revver communities, which are
(obviously) not currently being properly represented within *this*
particular Yahoo!Group.  Blip.tv rocks the online video hosting world, as
far as quality goes, but there are currently far more YouTubers for me to
engage with -- and that means a far more diverse group of people.

To sum: I think it's a real good idea for you to (broad)cast yourself
widely, "dipping in" to the various online (and offline, why not?) video
communities available.  There's a wider world of video producers out there
than this small Yahoo!Group or even the more robust YouTube community will
ever have, and it's probably going to benefit you more by engaging with a
diversity of communities.  Though I think that you're generalizing a bit
about the YouTube hate you've encountered here, I've encountered some of it
myself, and believe I may have even engaged in a bit of it.  (I tend to
champion the underdog, and therefore Blip.tv appeals to that part of my
spirit.)

Anyway, I dig every single person I've encountered in this forum and through
the related projects/happenings that occur as a result of this group (such
as the videoconferences).  I love watching Human Dog projects (esp. American
King), Lo-Fi St. Louis, Jay Momentshowing, Ryanne Everything, Verdi
Vlogsalot, Batmaniac Heath, the PAN, The Faux Press, Markus Sandy and the
Apperceptions, Enric and Andreas and Paul Knight on videoconferences, that
sexy (phony) French girl, Richard and his wife, all the L.A. vloggers (you
know who you are), and everyone I haven't mentioned and feel guilty not to
have...You're on my mind but there's not enough space...

...but there's others out there I've been getting turned on to.  Anyone
catch "LisaNova"?  The woman's got talent, and she's on YouTube...

Anyway, I've already said too much,
Harold
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http://somethingthathappened.com

On 12/4/06, Mark Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Ha! Now I have your attention.... (ahem)
>
> My comments were summarising some general sentiments that I seem to have
> noticed rather than intended to point to anyone in particular.
>
> I would agree with Mike that there is a "broader dialogue" outside of
> YouTube which YouTubers who never leave the walled garden don't
> participate
> in. But it's also true that there's a large and vibrant dialogue going on
> *within* YouTube which (I'm generalizing...). Now, to be fair, a lot of
> that dialogue is YouTubers talking to other YouTubers about YouTubey
> things
> (as opposed to, say, videobloggers talking to video bloggers about video
> bloggy things...). But still.
>
> I guess having one foot in one camp and a toe dipped tentatively in the
> other (thanks in no small part to Blip.tv, about whom i cannot say enough
> etc.....) I am just seeing what looks (to my superficial eyes) to be some
> small patches of itchy irony.
>
> As for the "destination blog/vlog" vs. the live journal blog analogy.... I
> agree that the 'top tier' blogs (in something of a self perpetuating
> system...) sit above the proletariat (ahem), and the same could be true
> for
> video blogs. Would I like to migrate all my subscribers somewhere I could
> monetize my work? Sure. Do I think, at this point, that there are enough
> of
> them, and that enough of them would follow to make a tactical withdrawal
> from YouTube worth my while? Probably not. Perhaps Malcolm Gladwell could
> identify the dozen people who would have to leave YouTube for a Tipping
> Point style collapse, but I fear I'm not one of them...
>
> Am I going to be tarred by the bush of "YouTuber" as my content migrates
> other places? It may be too late for that. Or it may not.
> One thing I think is interesting is that I read a lot about how the
> internet
> is increasingly "invisible" (ie taken for granted) by the current
> generation, with media distinctions essentially blurring. And I'm reading
> here that, if anything, more media distinctions are what's called for.
> Hmmm.
>
> Meanwhile, I do actually sort of understand what an RSS feed does. I can't
> for the effing life of me figure out what "feedburning" it will do.
> Although anything involving fire is always fun.
>
> Cheers
>
> MD
> www.youtube.com/markdaycomedy
> http://markdaycomedy.blip.tv/
> & etc. etc.
>
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