Oh yeah and the supreme arrongance of Apple winds me up - just why did they think they could get away with using the name iPhone when its already been trademarked? Cisco are taking them to court over this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6250511.stm Whats plan B, change the name to podphone? Ugh the BBC keep refering to the iPhone announcement as its 'launch'. Im no fan of 'launching' a product 6 months before its actually available, a worrying trend these days. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In [email protected], "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think I may be missing something, not understanding the level of > innovation people are attaching to the iPhone. > > The user interface seems real nice, and the multi-touch display is > innovative (I assume the starting point for it was the 2 finger stuff > you can do on macbook trackpads). But a lot of the other stuff seems > neither new, nor necessarily as groundbreaking as some are assuming > (we'll just have to wait and see how locked-down it is). > > Seriously, I can use google maps on my pocketpc mobile phone, I can > use my finger, it has wifi & 3G, and its bound to be more open than > the iPhone. As I said previously it does suck on many levels, the most > noticable being sluggish and unattractive GUI slows things down. > > In my opinion Apple do frequently innovate on the user interface and > ease of use, and Microsoft & Bill Gates are usually dull as dishwater. > But theres no way Im going to hold Apple up as a shining example of > openness, enemies of the status quo. They seem to be going in that > direction sometimes, as with video on the itunes store, but they > partner with the large giants of the past, which seriously undermines > such hopes. I will cahnge my tune on this if they ever take a more > progressive stance on things like DRM, but they havent to date. > > Someone pondered whether flash support will be included in the iphone > browser, I think thats an extremely good question. > > I wonder just how much more Microsoft would have been laughed at if it > were they that did this iPhone, and didnt include the ability to > record video with the camera, rather than the easy ride Apple are so > far being given for omitting this feature. > > Cheers > > Steve Elbows > > --- In [email protected], "Mike Meiser" > <groups-yahoo-com@> wrote: > > > > In considering the term revolutionary... and the much better term > > innovation... > > > > I think one must compare the new iPhone to microsoft's "ipod killer" the > > zune... > > > > ... and laugh and laugh and laugh. > > > > The ONLY innovation Microsoft made over the iPod after 100% nocking it > > off... oh wait... they made the screen biigger... wow! now that's > brilliant > > innovation... credit where credi is due.... > > > > anyway I was saying the only innovation microsoft made was adding wifi > > sharing... and it is... sooo dam convoluted I think you'd be hard > pressed to > > find ANYONE who's ever used it. > > > > I mean... who spends all that time money and energy to engineer wifi > into a > > device like that and then the only thing it does is some completely > useless > > convoluted "social" as Microsoft likes to call it. > > > > Now compare that to the number and depth of innovations on the iPhone. > > > > There is NO comparison... non... microsoft literally could not design > > themselves out of a box. > > > > And I'll tell you why. > > > > Microsoft lacks ALL vision. They have none. With the type of > technical and > > legal issues in the creation of the media market truely innovative > products > > require management with true vision high up in the value chain... > because > > some UI or useability geek... or even some engineer is not going to > be able > > to overule some IDIOT suit further up the food chain on > criticalusability > > issues. > > > > Quite simply put the zune is a premiere example of design by comitee. > > > > On the other hand jobs maybe a tyrant, but he is a man of uncompromised > > vision in touch with exactly what the consumer wants who seeks out > brilliant > > designers and engineers that are uncompromising and ruthless as him. > > > > There couldn't be to companies that are more opposite of one another in > > corporate culture. > > > > The iphone is no where near as brilliant as the original mac... it's > amazing > > definitely... but all steve did was go around and collect the > fragmentary > > pieces of the puzzle from players like palm, and the blackberry... and > > others and combine them together in one... ok... the way he combined > them > > was brilliant I can't deny it. It's just brilliant. > > > > -Mike > > mmeiser.com/blog > > On 1/11/07, Gromik Tohoku <gromik_tohoku@> wrote: > > > > > > without quoting timshey out of proportion, > > > > > > >On 1/9/07, T Shey <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: > > > > To me, it just shows how arrogant Apple has become. > > > > > > I would like to comment that instead of concidering > > > Apple as "arrogant" may looking at how Apple is > > > revolutionising the industry, might be a better > > > interpretation. > > > > > > After all, IMHO, microsoft and all its affiliations is > > > not doing a whole lot to revolutionise my use of PC. > > > Until Apple came up with the iPod, Microsoft was > > > sitting still counting dollar bills. > > > > > > I am glad that Apple is giving the computer industry a > > > well deserved ass kick up the donkey! > > > > > > Nicolas > > > > > > > > > -------------------- > > > Gromik Nicolas > > > Tohoku University > > > Sendai, Japan > > > fax=81-22-7647 > > > ==================== > > > http://www.filmedworld.com/page.php?3 > > > http://nag-productions.blip.tv/? > > > http://sendai-city-tourism-tohoku-university.blip.tv/ > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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