I''m sorry that you're sorry that Jeffrey feels that way.
Richard
--- In [email protected], John Furrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks Jeffrey. I'm sorry that you feel that way. We stand up for
video producers and people investing in the space. It can get
commercial and I understand the perceptions there. As the net accepts
more and more independent producers new talent will emerge. That is
my opinion and I'm behind that. PodTech is far from old media and in
fact we'll experiment and innovate as much as we can to push the
envelope on ideas and creativity. I know others feel the same way -
create content, innovate, and push the envelope on new ideas.
>
> ________________________________
> From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:57 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [videoblogging] The Vloggies (was Re: irina gone)
>
>
> The whole Podtech Affair (Irina, Lan, Vloggies, the public defenses from
> Scoble and Furrier) reeks of traditional ("old") media, old business.
> Instead of standing up for something or for other people, we are
left with
> nothing but a diluted, tasteless word salad.
>
> On 24/07/07, J. Rhett Aultman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:wlight%40weatherlight.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I strongly agree with this. I realize it's "business as usual" for
more
> > traditional media businesses to use award shows as a way to
scratch the
> > backs of their VIPs and biggest stakeholders, but I find something
like
> > that entirely disingenuous in the case of PodTech and the
Vloggies. Not
> > only that, but it's bad business sense in a market where the largest
> > stakeholders are ill defined and change every few months.
> >
> > --
> > Rhett.
> > http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime
> > http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime
> >
> >
> > > John, this is why you have to talk about this here and not on the
> > > phone with someone. If you want to engage this community then engage
> > > us. You can't have private, offline conversations about things like
> > > this.
> > >
> > > For everyone else, if you don't like the way PodTech is handling
> > > things then DON'T LET THEM HANDLE IT. Don't participate in their
> > > awards show and don't accept any awards. If nobody recognizes "The
> > > Vloggies" then it doesn't matter who owns the trademark. If you
still
> > > want awards then someone will have to organize the community to
do it.
> > >
> > > - Verdi
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/24/07, Kent Nichols
<[EMAIL
PROTECTED]<mailto:digitalfilmmaker%40gmail.com><digitalfilmmaker%40gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> > >> Off-list? If you want to engage my professional services,
contact my
> > >> agents. Barrett Garese at UTA.
> > >>
> > >> If you want to talk about the Vloggies, let's talk about the
Vloggies
> > >> here in public.
> > >>
> > >> I support an open awards show that is owned by no company. I think
> > >> that
> > >> Trademarking Vloggies gives your company too much control. The
Oscars
> > >> are owned by the film industry, and the Emmys are owned by the TV
> > >> industry. There were several sponsors last year, don't they
also have
> > >> as much right to the mark of the Vloggies as PodTech?
> > >>
> > >> Oh but you have more rights don't you? Because the person that came
> > >> up
> > >> with the idea, the person that organized it and made it a
success was
> > >> on
> > >> your dime... The person that was just let go, right after the
> > >> Trademark
> > >> was filed...
> > >>
> > >> By landgrabbing "Vloggies", you are trying to own an industry,
which is
> > >> unconscionable.
> > >>
> > >> You guys are smart, you're just caught in a lot of bad decisions.
> > >>
> > >> You should donate that mark to the Creative Commons, or EFF, or
create
> > >> a
> > >> new non-profit that will run the awards. That would be the
right thing
> > >> to do, and might start repairing the PR nightmare you guys are
> > >> experiencing right now.
> > >>
> > >> -Kent, askaninja.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- In
[email protected]<mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>
<videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > John Furrier <john@> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Kent,
> > >> > Email me if you'd like to get involved and we can chat off list
> > >> >
> > >> > John
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://michaelverdi.com
> > > http://spinxpress.com
> > > http://freevlog.org
> > > Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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