Loren who? What are you talking about? Is Loren a group troll or 
something? What did I miss? Why should we care what this "Loren" 
that you speak of thinks, says or does? Is he in charge of 
something? What makes him relevant?

Seriously, are we really gonna talk about every fool with an opinion 
that says something stupid in a video? Why should we care? Youtube 
is full of nutcases with webcams saying stupid shit. Are we gonna 
talk about all of them too?

Don't feed the trolls. 

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com
www.billstreeter.net

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> In his latest video, Loren provides a sort-of-explanation about his
> recent videos, and then launches a scathing attack on this group.
> 
> Complains about:
> 
> Groupthink
> Nobody emailing him
> Nobody making a video about it or taking other action, all talk
> Not having any balls
> People trying to get podtech to censor him.
> 
> 
> Now personally I have a trackrecord of talking about groupthink 
here,
> and sometimes going against the grain. I therefore share some of 
his
> concerns about this stuff, but I am rather unsure of the specifics 
of
> what he was trying to prove, Im not sure Ive learnt anything new 
so I
> resent his suggestion that he has proved something to the gullible 
herd.
> 
> He talks of the potential of what social media could really be used
> for, but doesnt go into any detail, so I am left guessing as to
> whether he means the same sorts of things I feel are possible, and
> often complain arent really happening.
> 
> Persoanally I freely admit to having no balls, and of being mostly 
all
> talk, and rarely making videos, so those complaints dont bother me,
> but are probably unfair to a lot of other people here.
> 
> And I think this whole thing was a pretty crappy example of
> groupthink. Not everybody here has expressed the same opinion by a
> long shot, and I think there have been much better examples of
> groupthink in the past. The best examples of groupthink Ive seen 
are
> when everyone jumps on a bandwagon and starts attacking something
> without learning the facts first, its happened here to one degree 
or
> another in the past. But the thing with Feldmans video was that
> watching the video was about the only fact available. I take his 
point
> that maybe some people could of thought to ask him, if they wanted 
to
> form their own independent conclusions, but with something like 
this
> does someone really need to do anything other than watch the video 
to
> form an opinion?
> 
> I would guess that not everybody here wants podtech to censor him, 
I
> certainly dont, and therefore I dont think its a great example of
> groupthink at all. Especially as numerous people have made lengthy
> posts where they ponder his motives, whether he was using it to 
make
> some other point, so how can he claim that everybody fell for it? 
Just
> because the group may seem to Feldman to be one large mash of 
people
> with a collective stupid brain, doesnt make it so, if he is too 
lazy
> to look at the subtle differences in peoples opinions then pah. Its
> the same phenomenon as racism really isnt it, lumping everyone
> together under one label in the mind?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Steve Elbows
>


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