I echo what Jen said, but I also wanted to tell you that there's a lot of us
in Europe who have been discussing and are very excited about your Vlog,
GoGen! We're glad you're here!
On 08/08/2007, Jen Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> This list does discuss technology a lot. And some questions get more
> replies / better answers than others.
>
> The discussion about said racist video is important, I believe. The
> discussion started with several people saying "hey, it's ok. The
> video isn't funny, but whatever, it was cool" / and other people
> countered with "no, it's not ok. It's racist and let's say so." And
> then a lot of people had a lot to say. People debated 'What is
> censorship?'... What is "feeding the trolls"... What were the
> motivations of the person who made the video.... What does racism
> look like in the 21st century?... and yes, discussions like this can
> get very hard to watch especially when we are talking about racism
> in the United States ("land of the free / home of the brave"). I like
> discussions like these, messy as they are, because the debate asks
> the people who are participating it in to think. To think about what
> they think, notice it, attempt to articulate it. It is rare to get a
> chance to think about and talk about racism in our culture(s) and
> yet, social dynamics like the ones that have been discussed dominate
> our lives (including censorship / power / money / etc) and affect
> most everything going on around us. It is important to talk about
> racism in the U.S./U.K. and elsewhere. If it's not talked about, it
> goes unchecked, passed on from person to person.
>
> Congrats on your videoblog! David Howell just pointed me over to it
> the other day, and I've been watching all your videos with great
> interest. I spent a month in Croatia, Serbia and Bosnia last summer,
> and a month the summer before, working on a multimedia opera about
> Nikola Tesla. I feel a strong connection to Belgrade and Croatia now,
> and have many friends there. I know ethnicity / nationality has
> played a huge role in what life is like in the former Yugoslavia for
> the last 10-15 years. Maybe that's why you really don't want this
> list to be going on and on about race-based tensions. While it may
> sound like people are angry with each other the debate in the U.S.
> does not carry with it the nationalism that could start a war. That
> war ended in 1865, and while we haven't completely gotten over it,
> there not been any movement to restart it for about three decades now.
>
> And this discussion will end in a week or so. And we'll start
> debating something else with a lot of controversy usually talking
> about advertising or Hollywood business models gets things going. ;-)
> Read the list email in a program / environment that sorts things into
> threads, and then delete all the email from any discussion that you
> don't want to be part of without having to read any of it. Two
> thousand emails a month are too many for most all of us.
>
> And keep posting your technical questions! Somebody answer GoGen's
> questions! Rupert is really one of the people who get movlogging.
>
> zdravo,
> Jen
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> On Aug 8, 2007, at 8:09 am, gogen001 wrote:
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> > As a newbie in this group I somehow thought it would be more
> > technical, unfortunately there's a lot of (unnecessary?) flaming going
> > around some racist or whatever they are videos, while, for example,
> > the post about movlogging with bluetooth remains with only two
> > replies.
> >
> > OK, my bad if I expected something different.
> > Sorry, I'm just being sincere.
> >
> > PS
> > David, I'm posting below your reply 'cause I know you better than
> > others, no other reasons.
> >
> > GoGen
> > www.gogentv.com
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > This group should be ashamed.
> > > It should be ashamed over what is happening to it right here with
> > this
> > > discussion.
> > > The only thing I can say at this point about Feldman, Podtech,
> > Scoble,
> > > AND this group as a whole with the infighting is "*pfffft*"
> > > David
> >
> >
> >
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