Insert Gallic Shrug direct from Paris here. On 08/08/07, David Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This group should be ashamed. > > It should be ashamed over what is happening to it right here with this > discussion. > > The only thing I can say at this point about Feldman, Podtech, Scoble, > AND this group as a whole with the infighting is "*pfffft*" > > David > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com > http://www.taoofdavid.com > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > "Heath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Dude, you have no idea what Bill Streeter believes, I know Bill, I > > don't know you but you are certainly using this "thing" with Loren to > > be vocal, after you "changed" your mind I might add....you are more > > fake than Loren > > > > Heath > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > "danielmcvicar" > > <danielmcvicar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > C'mon Bill, who are you kidding. 1938media has billing above you at > > > Podtech, a private media company and network with sponsors and > > shows. > > > > > > You are in there eating with the trolls. > > > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > "Bill Streeter" <bill@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Loren who? What are you talking about? Is Loren a group troll or > > > > something? What did I miss? Why should we care what this "Loren" > > > > that you speak of thinks, says or does? Is he in charge of > > > > something? What makes him relevant? > > > > > > > > Seriously, are we really gonna talk about every fool with an > > opinion > > > > that says something stupid in a video? Why should we care? > > Youtube > > > > is full of nutcases with webcams saying stupid shit. Are we gonna > > > > talk about all of them too? > > > > > > > > Don't feed the trolls. > > > > > > > > Bill Streeter > > > > LO-FI SAINT LOUIS > > > > www.lofistl.com > > > > www.billstreeter.net > > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com<videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > "Steve Watkins" <steve@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In his latest video, Loren provides a sort-of-explanation about > > his > > > > > recent videos, and then launches a scathing attack on this > > group. > > > > > > > > > > Complains about: > > > > > > > > > > Groupthink > > > > > Nobody emailing him > > > > > Nobody making a video about it or taking other action, all talk > > > > > Not having any balls > > > > > People trying to get podtech to censor him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now personally I have a trackrecord of talking about groupthink > > > > here, > > > > > and sometimes going against the grain. I therefore share some > > of > > > > his > > > > > concerns about this stuff, but I am rather unsure of the > > specifics > > > > of > > > > > what he was trying to prove, Im not sure Ive learnt anything > > new > > > > so I > > > > > resent his suggestion that he has proved something to the > > gullible > > > > herd. > > > > > > > > > > He talks of the potential of what social media could really be > > used > > > > > for, but doesnt go into any detail, so I am left guessing as to > > > > > whether he means the same sorts of things I feel are possible, > > and > > > > > often complain arent really happening. > > > > > > > > > > Persoanally I freely admit to having no balls, and of being > > mostly > > > > all > > > > > talk, and rarely making videos, so those complaints dont bother > > me, > > > > > but are probably unfair to a lot of other people here. > > > > > > > > > > And I think this whole thing was a pretty crappy example of > > > > > groupthink. Not everybody here has expressed the same opinion > > by a > > > > > long shot, and I think there have been much better examples of > > > > > groupthink in the past. The best examples of groupthink Ive > > seen > > > > are > > > > > when everyone jumps on a bandwagon and starts attacking > > something > > > > > without learning the facts first, its happened here to one > > degree > > > > or > > > > > another in the past. But the thing with Feldmans video was that > > > > > watching the video was about the only fact available. I take > > his > > > > point > > > > > that maybe some people could of thought to ask him, if they > > wanted > > > > to > > > > > form their own independent conclusions, but with something like > > > > this > > > > > does someone really need to do anything other than watch the > > video > > > > to > > > > > form an opinion? > > > > > > > > > > I would guess that not everybody here wants podtech to censor > > him, > > > > I > > > > > certainly dont, and therefore I dont think its a great example > > of > > > > > groupthink at all. Especially as numerous people have made > > lengthy > > > > > posts where they ponder his motives, whether he was using it to > > > > make > > > > > some other point, so how can he claim that everybody fell for > > it? > > > > Just > > > > > because the group may seem to Feldman to be one large mash of > > > > people > > > > > with a collective stupid brain, doesnt make it so, if he is too > > > > lazy > > > > > to look at the subtle differences in peoples opinions then pah. > > Its > > > > > the same phenomenon as racism really isnt it, lumping everyone > > > > > together under one label in the mind? > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > Steve Elbows > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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