comments below On 2/2/08, Jay dedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > how does a tracker help me follow conversations across different > > > sites? > > > > that might be the wrong question. If you could map link structures > > between blogs then the patterns that form, and the clusters (eg your > > blog would be a dense node since many others link to it) provide ways > > of visualising and *discovering* relationships. There are mapping > > tools that already do this well. But if you take this down to the post > > level, then things get really interesting. This is because it is all > > about granularity, so if you can see that there is a cluster (a series > > of connections between parts) then you can discover new things, > > precisely because the structures that emerge in blogging (relations > > between blog posts) are emergent rather than predetermined or > > hierarchical. > > when you start talking like tis Adrian, you lose me. > I am understanding the concepts of video commenting and following the threads. > im in. > > So everyone is video commenting to each other. It's this beautiful > ecology going on spread out across blogs, totally decentralized. > What does Meiser's tracker service look like? > > I go to a page and see what? > a list of videos? links?
While I love "reading Adrian"... I must agree that bit is a little hard to follow. I hesitate to do a mockup... because quite frankly the concept is simple enough it should be explainable at this point in plain text. In fact I find if something isn't explainable in plain text then you haven't simplified it enough. That said... maybe I should do some type of mockup at some point, but only if it's understood and we're ready to move on to the next step. Take a look at my email response and let me know if you still don't get it. I'll do what i can. The key is that we need to make the "open vlogosphere" compete with such closed services as youtube. In order to do this we're going to need development not only on the hosting platforms itself... ie. wordpress... but we're also going to need development on the consumption end.... this could be trackers, desktop video aggregators, search, etc. SIAB and others projects and services have done a good job of doing what they can on the hosting side. Miro, Fireant and others have done a nice job on improving interfaces for simply watching videos. The hole right now is in services that make the conversations happening in this open space easily trackable and more visible. These services are going to have to be "destination sevices" (websites), but they can also be open source software so anyone can make an alternative destination / website. All this is to say we cannot solve the problems of the vlogosphere by focusing on the host alone. Good, high visiblity trackers will promote our agenda to invigorate this open ecosystem as oposed to it collapsing onto youtube's and facebooks. Many have put it this way. "Facebook is not a social network the INTERNET is a social network." "Kazzaa and Bittorrent are not file sharing network, the internet is a file sharing network." By pulling "stuff" out of these darkents and out into the open we can spur much greater innovation. We have to continue to drag the conversation out of the darknets... wether that be dragging media out of P2P markets and onto the open web... or dragging social ties out of proprietary services like Facebook. Peace, -Mike > jay > > > > > -- > http://jaydedman.com > 917 371 6790 > Professional: http://ryanishungry.com > Personal: http://momentshowing.net > Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ > Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman > RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
