I've been thinking about what Charles said.

In theory we could extend wordpress' trackback mechanism.

I'm not sure exactly how it currently works, but we could basically
just extend it to identify video enclosures and embed those in the
original blog post comments area.

This might be THE simplest form of encouraging cross blogging.

The next step would then be to make wordpress' comments RSS support enclosures.

I'm not by any means an expert on Wordpress' trackback mechanisms but
these should theoretically be two very practical steps that would
encourage not just leaving videos in comments, but also "re-vlogging"
your responses.

I don't think these replace the need for a good video conversation
tracker, but they're certainly very pragmatic / accomplishable first
steps that would immediately enliven vlogging.

It occurs to me that perhaps in the future a little CSS style work
might be helpful in wordpress as well.

Perhaps thee so called 'video" responses should be brought up along
side the original video (like on youtube), so they're more visible.
This would involve pulling additional content such as thumbnails from
trackbacks as well.

Anyway, I like this idea, it's far more practical then then having a
3rd party tracker, and even better fits much better into the SIAB
project schema.

Let's keep talking about it.  Maybe we can get to the point where we
can identify and work out some of the issues, do a little research,
spec out and design some concepts.  Even if this is something that
SIAB devides not to pursue I'd find the process worthwhile and perhaps
it would lead to other things.

So... does anyone know any practical reasons why we cannot expand on
trackbacks to identify videos and embed them in the comments on the
original post?

-Mike
mmeiser.com/blog


On 2/4/08, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would be nice if, for example, each WordPress (or Show in a Box)
> based video blog had a plugin that could show the entire threaded
> convo itself.
>
> That way you could see the convo no matter which video blog you were on.
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> On Feb 4, 2008 3:58 AM, Jay dedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > So Jay, is this an offer to develop it?
> >  > I would be very happy to contribute feedback, design, CSS, light
> >  > coding / anything I can just as long as it's either a) open source, or
> >  > b) I have some stake in the entity building it. I'm just sick of
> >  > helping unappreciative companies / people build things that profit
> >  > them and not giving anything back. The succubus is a good metaphor.
> >
> >  yeah, lets not worry about creating a business.
> >  go into porn or the new Blackwater-style security services to make money.
> >
> >
> >  > The primary requirements of such a system is users will be able to add
> >  > RSS 2.0 / mediaRSS feeds with videos in them... it will also need to
> >  > regularly crawl and DB these feeds and identify permalinks in the
> >  > posts cross referencing other posts.
> >
> >  Take a moment to check out Andreas writings on tracking conversations.
> >  He recently reminded me of his work back in 2004(!). Not sure if I was
> >  ready to grasp his ideas back then.
> >  http://www.solitude.dk/tag/conversation+tracking
> >
> >  my experience and desire for any system screams for a visual presentation.
> >  a list of links doesnt excite me.
> >  I want to see thumbnails.
> >  i want to watch videos i the page easily.
> >  i want the page to make the videos look good.
> >
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