You know..... I remember reading somewhere that, when the HTTP protocol (that the web is build upon) was being designed, they actually wanted a include a mechanism to keep track of what other pages were linking to you.
If I recall correctly, the "HTTP Referer".... and yes you're suppose to mis-spell "referrer" as "referer" in this context... was a much much weaker form of this concept. (I guess they ran out of time to do it properly.) There's a handful of protocols for handling this... TrackBack http://www.sixapart.com/pronet/docs/trackback_spec Pingback http://www.hixie.ch/specs/pingback/pingback There's also something called "Refback"... but I couldn't find a spec for it. In general, people seem to call this concept "Linkbacks".... although sometime people seem to just use "TrackBack" and "Pingback" as a generic term too (that is synonymous with "Linkback".) See ya -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. http://ChangeLog.ca/ Motorsport Videos http://TireBiterZ.com/ Vlog Razor... Vlogging News... http://vlograzor.com/ On Feb 5, 2008 8:34 AM, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've been thinking about what Charles said. > > In theory we could extend wordpress' trackback mechanism. > > I'm not sure exactly how it currently works, but we could basically > just extend it to identify video enclosures and embed those in the > original blog post comments area. > > This might be THE simplest form of encouraging cross blogging. > > The next step would then be to make wordpress' comments RSS support > enclosures. > > I'm not by any means an expert on Wordpress' trackback mechanisms but > these should theoretically be two very practical steps that would > encourage not just leaving videos in comments, but also "re-vlogging" > your responses. > > I don't think these replace the need for a good video conversation > tracker, but they're certainly very pragmatic / accomplishable first > steps that would immediately enliven vlogging. > > It occurs to me that perhaps in the future a little CSS style work > might be helpful in wordpress as well. > > Perhaps thee so called 'video" responses should be brought up along > side the original video (like on youtube), so they're more visible. > This would involve pulling additional content such as thumbnails from > trackbacks as well. > > Anyway, I like this idea, it's far more practical then then having a > 3rd party tracker, and even better fits much better into the SIAB > project schema. > > Let's keep talking about it. Maybe we can get to the point where we > can identify and work out some of the issues, do a little research, > spec out and design some concepts. Even if this is something that > SIAB devides not to pursue I'd find the process worthwhile and perhaps > it would lead to other things. > > So... does anyone know any practical reasons why we cannot expand on > trackbacks to identify videos and embed them in the comments on the > original post? > > -Mike > mmeiser.com/blog > > > > On 2/4/08, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would be nice if, for example, each WordPress (or Show in a Box) > > based video blog had a plugin that could show the entire threaded > > convo itself. > > > > That way you could see the convo no matter which video blog you were on. > > > > -- > > Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. > > http://ChangeLog.ca/ > > > > Motorsport Videos > > http://TireBiterZ.com/ > > > > Vlog Razor... Vlogging News... http://vlograzor.com/ > > > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2008 3:58 AM, Jay dedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > So Jay, is this an offer to develop it? > > > > I would be very happy to contribute feedback, design, CSS, light > > > > coding / anything I can just as long as it's either a) open source, > or > > > > b) I have some stake in the entity building it. I'm just sick of > > > > helping unappreciative companies / people build things that profit > > > > them and not giving anything back. The succubus is a good metaphor. > > > > > > yeah, lets not worry about creating a business. > > > go into porn or the new Blackwater-style security services to make > money. > > > > > > > > > > The primary requirements of such a system is users will be able to > add > > > > RSS 2.0 / mediaRSS feeds with videos in them... it will also need to > > > > regularly crawl and DB these feeds and identify permalinks in the > > > > posts cross referencing other posts. > > > > > > Take a moment to check out Andreas writings on tracking conversations. > > > He recently reminded me of his work back in 2004(!). Not sure if I was > > > ready to grasp his ideas back then. > > > http://www.solitude.dk/tag/conversation+tracking > > > > > > my experience and desire for any system screams for a visual > presentation. > > > a list of links doesnt excite me. > > > I want to see thumbnails. > > > i want to watch videos i the page easily. > > > i want the page to make the videos look good. > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > -- > > > > > > http://jaydedman.com > > > 917 371 6790 > > > Professional: http://ryanishungry.com > > > Personal: http://momentshowing.net > > > Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman > > > RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 > > >
