It's funny I didn't even notice the ad's DURING the interview just the one's before and after....I was too distracked by the blonde to notice the overlays.. ;)
Another thing that is funny for me, is that I have always been in the "ad's arn't so bad" camp....I know it's still the model and for the most part I don't mind them, I ingnore most of them actually...so for me to say "ads are wrong here" is to me a bit funny in itself....I really do think it's because I know Jay and Ryanne and knowing what "could" have happened and to be honest what could "still" happen....cause I am sure their names are on some list now in China.... Heath http://batmangeek.com http://heathparks.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Cammack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, like I said, I agree with you entirely. I was "shocked" enough > just reading the twitter or link here or whatever that informed me > that they had been over there AT ALL. I thought they were in the > sticks somewhere making bread and not using plastic. When I read the > link, I was like "THEY could have been caught up in it TOO? :O". > > So, yeah, when I went to the video, it had extra import, gloom and > doom for me because at the time they recorded it, they still could > have gotten busted. Ads, of course, are going to pull me out of that > feeling, so they're certainly unwanted... as far as the "art" of the > piece. > > As far as what kind of ads they might have served on it, that's an > interesting point. Unless boingboing does a consistently "gloom and > doom" category of videos, there's no reason for them to have > specifically targeted videos to specific videos. Like, there's no > reason that their audience watching THIS video would have been > different from the audience that watches the rest of their videos, > whatever they're about. So while I agree that the ads could have been > more in tune with the mood of the individual video, at this point, I > don't think it's feasible to tell an advertiser "We're going to do one > solemn video out of 100, maybe... so pay us to advertise your product > once in a blue moon". > > Bill Cammack > http://billcammack.com > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Heath" <heathparks@> wrote: > > > > Oh indeed I do know that is the nature of the "biz" but I can't help > > but think, maybe an ad for not smoking or maybe a company that is > > doing "green" or social things, etc...maybe that would have been a > > better fit than the ad that was on there...again I know the realility > > but for me this was the first time it really hit me...maybe it's > > because I know Jay and Ryanne, I don't know...but... > > > > Heath > > http://batmangeek.com > > http://heathparks.com > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Cammack" > > <billcammack@> wrote: > > > > > > I hear what you're saying, but bills have to be paid. I don't know > > > anything about boingboing, so I can't speak for them specifically, > > but > > > that's the game that's being played here. Get people to click on > > your > > > video, get people to click on your ads, get revenue to pay people's > > > salaries. There's nothing else going on here. > > > > > > It's like when you make a Ning community. You can make it for free > > if > > > you leave the google ads on your site and lose the use of an entire > > > sidebar... or you can pay Ning to make it worth their while to ditch > > > the ads and let you use the sidebar. Lots of people choose to make > > > free Ning sites and lots of people choose to watch free boingboing > > > videos with whatever ads you saw on them. > > > > > > I know you know this already and were just stating facts, :) and I > > > agree with you for the most part. The thing that SUCKS for me with > > > overlay ads is that you don't know when they're going to come up, so > > > as the content creator, when you go to font someone in THE LOWER 3RD > > > OF THE SCREEN, some bullshit ad comes up over your title and the > > > effect you were creating as art is completely lost. If that's the > > > only time you mention someone's name/title in the piece, people are > > in > > > the dark the whole time. > > > > > > Also, like you said, overlay ads of ANY kind destroy immersion, but > > > like I said, it's about making your money back, not making art that > > is > > > poignant and has the desired effect on the viewer that the artist > > > (content creator) intended. > > > > > > Removing ads would defeat the purpose of doing the videos in the > > first > > > place. (Again, having nothing specifically to do with boingboing) > > > > > > Bill Cammack > > > http://billcammack.com > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Heath" <heathparks@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I am glad jay and ryanne are back safe, I am glad that boing > > boing > > > > and others are trying to report things....but....and for me it's > > a > > > > big but....the ads on the video piece from boing boing turned me > > > > off....I mean, here are jay and ryanne talking about people being > > > > detained and how that they are basicly trying to get out of town > > > > before they themselves are detained and I get some upbeat rockin > > ad > > > > for, heck I don't even know but it just seemed sooo out of > > > > place....it detracted me from the overall message...maybe it's > > just > > > > me...but..... > > > > > > > > Heath > > > > http://batmangeek.com > > > > http://heathparks.com > > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert <rupert@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > http://tv.boingboing.net/2008/08/25/boing-boing-tv- proti.html > > > > > > > > > > "Last week, eight American citizens were detained in Beijing > > for > > > > > participating in pro-Tibetan sovereignty protests near the site > > of > > > > > the 2008 Olympics, with Students for a Free Tibet. Two > > > > videobloggers > > > > > who documented those protest and guerrilla art installations > > > > evaded > > > > > detention, and spoke to Boing Boing TV on Friday Beijing time > > > > about > > > > > why they were there, what they witnessed, and why it mattered. > > > > > > > > > > "Jay Dedman and Ryanne Hodson of Ryanishungry.com spoke to us > > over > > > > > Skype from a hostel in Beijing. One of the actions they > > documented > > > > in > > > > > photo and video was the hanging of an "LED throwies" light > > banner, > > > > > below, which read "FREE TIBET." We agreed to hold this Boing > > Boing > > > > tv > > > > > episode until after we received word that they'd safely left > > the > > > > > country. They have returned home, so I am posting the piece > > today." > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
