It's actually a good link, but a crappy messaging system. Yahoo lists totally suck for formatting.
http://blip.tv/file/653663 Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://discdogradio.com http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 8, 2009, at 4:27 AM, RANDY MANN wrote: > bad link? > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Ron Watson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > My new fig rig is v2.0, and is simply a 20" aluminum rim from a > > bicycle with the spokes cut out, and the valve stem whole bored out > > just enough to fit a bolt that attaches to the bottom of my > manfrotto > > pistol grip head. > > > > It's real nice as the head articulates allowing me to put the > unit on > > the ground and get a quick and dirty tripod function out of it. > > > > It's real sturdy and super light compared to my steel monster that > > was featured in my homemade fig rig video here: http://blip.tv/file/ > > 653663 . > > > > I really need a lanc controller though, and tried to mount my remote > > control to the frame, but it didn't work. > > > > I've got a little jiggle in the mounting mechanism, as the manfrotto > > head is really tall and it sways a bit. > > > > I'm going to try to tack it down a little better, but it's real nice > > if your being careful. > > > > peace, > > Ron Watson > > > > http://k9disc.blip.tv > > http://k9disc.com > > http://discdogradio.com > > http://pawsitivevybe.com > > > > On Jan 7, 2009, at 10:13 PM, rambos_locker wrote: > > > > > Yup you're right, crazy and passionate. That Fig rig is up to > version > > > No 11, I just enclosed the Cam fully in a water proof casing > and it > > > mounts with a quick connect tripod mount to the rig. > > > I'll post pics later today of the complete version. > > > The details of how i built the Fig Rig are on the HV20 forum > > > http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?t=20113 > > > > > > Contact you off list further about your project > > > > > > Cheers Rambo > > > http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com > > > > > > --- In [email protected] <videoblogging% > 40yahoogroups.com>, > > Ron Watson <k9d...@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Steve, > > > > Great post! > > > > > > > > I've been thinking about this a lot, and I agree with your > > > assessment > > > > that different groups will have different cost structures and > > > will be > > > > watered down to what the market will bear. > > > > > > > > In terms of Frisbee dogs, a highly complex activity with only > a few > > > > people qualified or capable of delivering instruction that is > > > > worthwhile, I think we're all set in terms of pricing. > > > > > > > > I'm not selling fish, I selling a fishing manuals. > > > > > > > > Flyball on the other hand is a much more simple sport in > terms of > > > > behavior - run jump over some hurdles and get the ball on > your box > > > > turn, jump some more hurdles and do it quickly. > > > > > > > > Not much serious instruction opportunities there. > > > > > > > > A friend of mine produced an instructional DVD for flyball > with the > > > > world's best team, and the 20 minute piece retails for $30. > > > > > > > > It's good stuff, but can it be broken down into bite sized > chunks? > > > > Not sure. They'll hang out for the community interaction. > > > > > > > > Agility is another highly complex sport and instruction is very > > > > expensive. It's a great fit. > > > > > > > > Dock diving? Not much serious training there. > > > > > > > > This is just to show that there are different possibilities with > > > > different topics. > > > > > > > > The specific idea I mentioned to start this thread, the jamming > > > > videos, could not retail for more than a buck or 2, but at a > buck or > > > > 2 with the right players, they'd sell like hotcakes - a couple > > > > hundred should be easy, not bad for a 2-4 minute video with > limited > > > > editing. > > > > > > > > While this is kind of selling the fish, and not the manual, > it is > > > > also selling the manual as the disc dog world goes round by > stealing > > > > tricks. > > > > > > > > This could not happen with all dog sports, and could not > happen with > > > > all kinds of activities. > > > > > > > > The people we are bringing in for instructional video are not > just > > > > some people. We have, perhaps, the best discdog instruction > in the > > > > world (not like we have many competitors) - it's certainly world > > > class. > > > > > > > > I'm pretty sure we can get the price I'm talking about for > > > > instructional pieces, at least in agility and Frisbee. The other > > > > stuff not so sure. I'm betting on some good crossover numbers > > > > (agility trainers looking at frisbee after good healthy > exposure) > > > and > > > > solid hardgoods sales from the various small business vendors > that > > > > service the community. > > > > > > > > Rambo, > > > > I think you and I are in the same place on this. The passion > that > > > > paddlers have is very close to dog sport people's passion - > we're > > > > just friggin' crazy about it. > > > > > > > > I don't think many people realize how disconnected many of these > > > > communities are from 'reality'. > > > > > > > > Who spends thousands of dollars to Fiji (and pays to ship a > > > boat!) to > > > > beat themselves up in the water for some Kukui nut lei or > something. > > > > It's crazy. > > > > > > > > Who has 30 leashes and collars for their dog? Or has 13 dogs, > 8 of > > > > which sleep in bed with us at a time like we do? > > > > > > > > We exist in our own little reality and there is no corporate > media > > > > organization that is going to go there. It's the long tail or > > > nothing. > > > > > > > > I am doing my best to create a community that allows for the > kind of > > > > support that Jay mentioned in his earlier post. > > > > > > > > All I have to do is put them all in the same place Vendors, > trainers > > > > and participants, let them interact freely, and bring their > > > preferred > > > > commercial interests (vendors and instructors) to them on a > daily > > > > basis. I'm pretty sure it'll work. > > > > > > > > I'll be happy to talk about the project offlist and give you > some > > > > details. > > > > > > > > I think it could benefit your gig. > > > > > > > > BTW, your fig rig pics got me fired up to create a new one of my > > > own. > > > > > > > > It's kind of nice. > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > peace, > > > > Ron Watson > > > > http://k9disc.blip.tv > > > > http://k9disc.com > > > > http://discdogradio.com > > > > http://pawsitivevybe.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 7, 2009, at 6:21 PM, Rambos Locker wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yet people pay $50 - $70 for an event DVD ????? > > > > > > > > > > Cheers Rambo > > > > > http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [email protected]<videoblogging% > 40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > [mailto:[email protected]<videoblogging% > 40yahoogroups.com>] > > On Behalf Of Steve Watkins > > > > > Sent: Thursday, 8 January 2009 9:13 AM > > > > > To: [email protected] <videoblogging% > 40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews > > > > > > > > > > My opinions, for the one thing Im not short of is opinions: > > > > > > > > > > Training videos that are useful to a niche are one of the more > > > likely > > > > > sorts of videos that some people will pay for. > > > > > > > > > > I did not like the example prices you gave at all. > Depending on > > > the > > > > > subject matter, training dvds and suchlike sometimes command a > > > high > > > > > price tag, and different niche's will have their own ideas > > > about how > > > > > much their stuff is worth, but I dont know as the internet > > > customer > > > > > will bite at prices that may not compare well in terms of > cost/ > > > minute > > > > > compared to dvd. > > > > > > > > > > I think the subscription model is more of a winner, but > again it > > > > > depends on the niche in question. And it works best if > there is a > > > > > fairly prolific quantity of new material added on a regular > basis. > > > > > > > > > > When I think of multiple people & shows collaborating, a > > > subscription > > > > > model also makes sense to me, if it adds enough value & > > > quantity of > > > > > material to make a viewer more likely to bite. > > > > > > > > > > Collaboration has a number of big hurdles to overcome, such as > > > all the > > > > > issues that can make human collaboration in general quite > tricky > > > > > (clash of ego's, who is in control, differences of opinion, > > > viewing > > > > > others in the same niche as competition, etc etc). Then there > > > are the > > > > > technical issues, and also an apparent lack of large > numbers of > > > people > > > > > with both the passion for the niche and the video skills, > and the > > > > > time, to pull this sort of thing off. This stuff can be > > > overcome but > > > > > it goes part of the way to explaining why we havent seen more > > > of this > > > > > sort of thing thus far. > > > > > > > > > > Whether its because of economic woetime, or issues of future > > > > > sustainability of our ways of life, local and community sounds > > > like an > > > > > important part of the future. The internet, and video, will > surely > > > > > figure into this in important ways, but I can hardly begin to > > > guess > > > > > how it may turn out or exactly what form it will take. Still > > > there are > > > > > some possible scenarios where it doesnt figure into things > much at > > > > > all, never happens, where other forces lead us down a very > > > different > > > > > path. > > > > > > > > > > So far I have not gotten a sense that videoblogging & other > > > forms of > > > > > video on the internet have opened up many lucrative > > > opportuinities for > > > > > many people. Those who make it through traditional mass > media are > > > > > still the vast majority, and in honesty I havent seen a > video for > > > > > years that made me think different or that there was about to > > > be a big > > > > > change. The long tail has made me a tad more hopeful about > > > humanity > > > > > but has massively failed to live up to the hype so far, in > almost > > > > > every respect. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > Steve Elbows > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
