LOL! Irina brings the drama and fun factor and I sure as hell can organize.
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Rupert Howe <rup...@twittervlog.tv> wrote: > > > I thought earlier today that Irina should have been organising the > Streamys. Now I realise that Irina & Rox is the dream team. Someone > should tell them. > > > On 15 Apr 2010, at 23:57, Roxanne Darling wrote: > > > Irina: agreed on the dubious pay for play and "it feels good to be > > recognized for hard work." > > Rupert: agree that having more women involve might have helped and > > tech > > should have been the "given." > > Quirk: "People are rightfully pissed." Yeah. > > Mark: Disrespecting the audience is a clear problem, I agree. If you > > are > > going to make it R-rated, it's your choice, though you better pre- > > announce > > that. > > > > As a group, internet video has so much potential. But many of those > > who are > > inspired to take the lead on these things also seem to have serious > > issues > > with maturity and basic event promotion competence. I produced a > > podcamp > > here in 2008 - over 400 attended live and thousands more via > > livestream. > > There were no streakers or swear words and wow what a great time we > > had! > > Aunties were blogging by the end of the 2 days and our tag hit #1 on > > Twitter > > and Flickr - from a big crowd of newbies. We did no traditional > > marketing or > > advertising - all via social networks and WOM. So I know this can > > all be > > done using the tools we love and sharing the ideas we know are > > relevant and > > in demand. > > > > I detached from being part of the in crowd years ago, both because > > of the > > geographical isolation in Hawaii (I just can't drop in to the LA and > > NYC > > meetings and those crowds seem to forget there are others who don't > > show up > > in the F2F events) as well as not fitting in one of the mainstream > > categories. Surely our 4+ years, 760 episodes, nearly 3 M views, and > > literally saving a few lives has a place somewhere? :-) > > > > Often a big fail can open things up for enlightenment. I'm putting > > my vote > > in that direction. > > > > Now, onto brighter and happier thoughts! > > > > Love, > > > > Rox > > > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Irina > > <irina...@gmail.com<irinaski%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> chance's story showed that charging nominees for participation is a > >> dubious > >> undertaking -- since without nominees there would be no industry > >> and no > >> "award show" in the first place. second of all, making anyone feel > >> left out > >> (since this is the web, which is pretty much an all-inclusive type of > >> environment) with special entrances and seating is another weird > >> idea. > >> > >> work on getting sponsors to pay for things so people dont have to. > >> thats > >> what sponsors are for. ergo, free food and liquor if i can help it. > >> > >> trust me, people brought their friends and kids to the vloggies and > >> the > >> winnies too. because its fun. and because it feels good to be > >> recognized > >> for > >> hard work. > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Rupert Howe > >> <rup...@twittervlog.tv <rupert%40twittervlog.tv><rupert% > 40twittervlog.tv>> > > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I'm also glad that it wasn't like the Oscars. LA & NY people > >>> consolidating their power. > >>> > >>> And Chance's personal story is depressing, but really... the whole > >>> thing reads like a Greek tragedy. Pride before the fall. I mean, he > >>> *really* thought he was going to the Oscars?? And brought all his > >>> friends and colleagues... and their children?! WTF. > >>> > >>> And I can't agree with the "It's terrible for the industry!" people. > >>> It will be *good* for the profile of web video, not bad. I've seen > >>> enough intentionally controversial and offensive theatre in London > >>> and > >>> Edinburgh to know that controversy drives box office success, mass > >>> media interest and general awareness. Even if the show itself is a > >>> train wreck. > >>> > >>> So - it might be bad for the reputation of Tubefilter and the > >>> producers and the chances of getting sponsors for next year's > >>> awards - > >>> but not bad for web TV. More people will hear about web shows now - > >>> in the knowledge that there was a big Awards ceremony for them. > >>> > >>> In everything I've read, everyone's giving them a pass on the tech > >>> problems and castigating them for the tone. Come on. > >>> > >>> They should be more ashamed of the tech problems than the poor > >>> taste. > >>> > >>> I mean, they were obviously *trying* to be 'edgy'. They got what > >>> they > >>> wanted, like ego-crazed geek frat boys. The whole thing reeks of not > >>> enough women in charge. What a surprise. > >>> > >>> But surely the one thing that should have been *flawless* is the > >>> technical delivery. > >>> > >>> It's not that hard to get sound right. You just have to hire a live > >>> event sound engineer who knows what they're doing - and a live > >>> broadcast mixer & director & engineer who know what they're doing (I > >>> mean, it's LA, for God's sake). > >>> > >>> And do rehearsals and sound checks. And if you can't do proper > >>> rehearsals in the venue, don't use the venue. If they were expecting > >>> 750,000 viewers, it should have been ALL about the flawless live > >>> streaming of the content and perfect sound, surely - not about > >>> ohmygosh the Orpheum Theatre and the self-satisfied LA types in the > >>> room? > >>> > >>> And above all, given that it's about web video, it should have been > >>> short. > >>> > >>> Rupert > >>> http://twittervlog.tv > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 12 Apr 2010, at 23:17, elbowsofdeath wrote: > >>> > >>>> So I hear the Streamy's this year were a disaster in several key > >>>> ways and have gotten all the wrong sort of attention as a result. > >>>> > >>>> There is some concern that it has damaged the image of the > >>>> 'industry', although it may be easy to overstate this point. It > >>>> certainly didnt help, but the 'industry' has enough other problems > >>>> too, although anything that harms potential sponsorship by > >>>> appearing > >>>> to confirm potential sponsors worst fears (eg uncontrolled juvenile > >>>> amateurish smut tarnishing their brands) sounds bad to me. > >>>> > >>>> Unfortunately there is a part of me that is wildly entertained and > >>>> amused by the streamyfail, considering it to be some kind of > >>>> justice > >>>> on a certain level. This isnt fair, as no doubt lots of blameless > >>>> hard working people have been hurt by the streamyfail, but I > >>>> suppose > >>>> its a natural consequence of my disdain for the way some of the > >>>> more > >>>> visible parts of the 'industry' went, shoddy emulation of the > >>>> existing media. What better way to symbolise two worlds colliding, > >>>> and so much wasted potential, than to have a slick awards show > >>>> humbled by technical glitches and naked people. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers > >>>> > >>>> Steve Elbows > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------ > >>> > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> http://geekentertainment.tv > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Roxanne Darling > > "o ke kai" means "of the sea" in hawaiian > > 808-384-5554 > > Video --> http://www.beachwalks.tv > > Company -- > http://www.barefeetstudios.com > > Twitter--> http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! 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