Philippe De Muyter wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 03:02:15AM +0100, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
>> Bram Moolenaar wrote:
>>> Philippe de Muyter wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 10:20:34PM +0200, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> The default digraphs now correspond to RFC1345. Most are different from
>>>>> what was used in Vim 5.x. Do we care about this incompatibility?
>>> Seems like only yesterday :-).
>
> I do not write french texts everyday :)
>
>>>> I only noticed that now, switching my linux distro to suse 10.3, and yes,
>>>> I
>>>> really care. I am a french-speaking programmer, so I use a qwerty-us
>>>> keyboard
>>>> beacause it is much easier for programming, but I need sometimes to
>>>> produce french texts.
>>>>
>>>> Previously, I could use the CTRL-K combinations with ` (backquote or
>>>> grave)
>>>> to introduce grave accents, ^ (circumflex) for circumflex accents and "
>>>> for
>>>> diaeresis, juste like on a typing machine.
>>>>
>>>> RFC1345 recommends :
>>>>
>>>> ! instead of ` for grave accent
>>>> > instead of ^ for circumflex accent
>>>> : instead of " for diaeresis
>>>>
>>>> Frankly I do not understand why RFC1345 has choosen that.
>>>>
>>>> I know I can add digraphs in .exrc, but it seems to me more logical to add
>>>> the french-writing typist combinations directly in the default digraphs
>>>> of vim.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, I do not ask for removal of the !, > and : sequences, only
>>>> their
>>>> duplications with their `, ^ and " counterparts.
>>> It seems that we can add these digraphs without breaking the existing
>>> ones. Is there anything against adding something like a" for ä, which
>>> you currently enter with a: ?
>>>
>> Currently, o" and u" are used for the doubly-acute-accented vowels of the
>> Hungarian language (meaning long ö and long ü, i.e. vowels with both umlaut
>> [for pitch change] and acute accent [for length]).
>>
>> Decimal codes 336, 337, 368, 369, or hexadecimal U+0150, U+0151, U+0170 and
>> U+0171.
>
> I agree that " is not the best fit for diaeresis, but ` for grave and ^
> for circumflex are. So please re-introduct that in the defaults, just
> like it was in older vim.
>
> A complementary suggestion : when one keys in an undefined CTRL-K
> combination, let's vim show/point to the digraphs table. I, (and a colleague
> independently) spent several hours to discover the combinations needed
> to introduce e`. We are experienced vi and vim users, and we used CTRL-K
> e' and CTRL-K e` before, so when e' works but e` does not work, the first
> reaction is not to read vim documentation :), and moreover, there's of course
> nothing in it about "grave" or about "accent".
>
> Best regards
>
> Philippe De Muyter
>
Why not read Vim documentation? If you are "experienced" Vim users, you should
know that everything is in the help.
:help digraphs-default
:helpgrep grave
:helpgrep accent
Best regards,
Tony.
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