John. Can you show me a notetaking app which will allow you to jump by paragraph? How about one that will allow you to find a phrase within a document then jump to that phrase. This app could be as powerful as having a braille notetaker but not spending the $6000. I'd rather pay for a notetaking app that would emulate a braille notetaker; that will do the same thing that it does. I'm no longer interested in spending $6000 just so I can have the notetaking and editing capabilities that a notetaker has. I don't consider that a blind ghetto product.
On Jul 12, 2012, at 9:21 PM, Jon Pierson wrote: > Hi, > Yes, most of the "features" mentioned, especially (all that talk of > compatibility) is due to Apple's implementations. The "Access World" app > seems to be nothing more than a proprietary reader for their own > publication. I'm starting to smell that ghetto mentality that says that > blind folk need different apps, devices and technology, not improvements in > existing programs that would make us nearly equal. > > Jon > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Ben Mustill-Rose > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 4:32 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: AccessNote AFB's New Notetaker for your IOS Device > > They seem pretty proud that it works with wireless keyboards and braille > displays; I can't think of an app that I've used that works with vo that > isn't usable with a keyboard. The only vaguely interesting things seem to be > the custom hotkeys and the tilt feature, although I'm not sure what's wrong > with a turn the page style swipe. > AFB & the creaters almost certainly don't think it's worth the pricetag, but > unfortunately this is just economies of scale coming into play - because > such a small amount of people will buy the app, they simply can't charge any > less assuming they want to profit. It's a shame really; it doesn't sound > like it's going to be anything overly special, but for the mostpart, if an > app has a nice UI (Which this probably will do), I'll buy it even if it does > the same thing as another app that I already use, but in this case, it looks > like it will be too much. > > Cheers, > Ben. > > On 7/12/12, Hope Paulos <[email protected]> wrote: >> Wish it had Microsoft word format >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 12, 2012, at 5:03 PM, Matthew Campbell >> <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> I'm sending this again as I'm not sure if it got through originally. >>> Sorry fore those of you seeing this again. >>> >>> How about a link to this article too? >>> I sure hope it's under $30. How about under $10 or I'm not buying. >>> It's a note taking app not a gold plated notebook. >>> >>> >>> On 2012-07-12, at 4:55 PM, Jessica Brown wrote: >>> >>>> How do I contact the AFB Tech lab with feedback? >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Steve" <[email protected] >>>> To: <[email protected]>,"the-facts-machine" >>>> <[email protected] >>>> Date sent: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:41:49 -0400 >>>> Subject: AccessNote AFB's New Notetaker for your IOS Device >>>> >>>> BlankThis is the announcement, it is not released yet. >>>> >>>> >>>> "A person cannot survive as a true Spartan fan unless he is a bit of >>>> a masochist and a very large optimist." >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> Lansing, MI >>>> >>>> AccessNote: AFB's New Note Taker for Your iOS Device >>>> >>>> Darren Burton and Ricky Kirkendall >>>> >>>> The AFB Tech lab is excited to announce that AFB will soon be >>>> releasing AccessNote, a note taker for your iPhone or other iOS >>>> device. AFB Tech, in conjunction with FloCo Apps, LLC, has designed >>>> what is expected to be a groundbreaking productivity tool for people >>>> with vision loss, and developers plan for its launch at the App >>>> Store later this summer. >>>> >>>> AccessNote is a powerful and efficient note taker that takes >>>> advantage of the tremendous built-in accessibility of your iPhone, >>>> iPod Touch, or iPad. >>>> To >>>> allow for much greater typing speed, increase accuracy, and permit >>>> keyboard commands, AccessNote is designed to be used with the Apple >>>> Wireless Keyboard >>>> (QWERTY) as well as wireless braille keyboards and displays. >>>> AccessNote will be completely compatible with VoiceOver and the iOS >>>> screen reader. It can be used without a keyboard, but a keyboard >>>> adds efficiency. >>>> >>>> Description of AccessNote >>>> >>>> Although there is not yet a final price point, AccessNote will be >>>> priced under $30, and it will have many of the features found in >>>> traditional note takers and accessible PDAs. AccessNote creates >>>> notes in the .TXT file format, and it can also import .TXT files >>>> from e-mail or Dropbox accounts. It is designed with a clean, simple >>>> interface that uses standard iOS design techniques, so its layout >>>> will be familiar to iOS device users. >>>> >>>> The home screen is titled All Notes, which is the heading at the top >>>> of the screen. The next element is the "Add" button (for adding a >>>> new note) followed by the Search field. Next is the user's list of >>>> files and notes, which includes a table index for quickly scrolling >>>> through notes. Finally, there are three buttons at the bottom of the >>>> home screen: "Settings," "Favorites," and "Help." Once the user is >>>> in a note, the screen includes a "Back" button to go back to the All >>>> Notes screen as well as a "Review" button for going into a read-only >>>> mode. >>>> >>>> Some of the features designed into AccessNote include: >>>> >>>> list of 7 items >>>> . Compatibility with the Apple Wireless Keyboard and wireless >>>> braille displays. >>>> . Fast and efficient navigation. >>>> . Powerful search features. >>>> . Automatic saving and syncing with Dropbox files. >>>> . Customized keyboard commands. >>>> . A review feature. >>>> . Options for larger text. >>>> list end >>>> >>>> Compatibility with the Apple Wireless Keyboard >>>> >>>> Although typing on an iOS touchscreen is certainly accessible, it is >>>> not nearly as efficient as using a traditional QWERTY keyboard, a >>>> primary reason for designing AccessNote for use with the Apple >>>> Wireless Keyboard (available from Apple for $69). Another reason is >>>> due to how well the Apple Wireless Keyboard works with VoiceOver to >>>> control an iOS device. There are keyboard commands for nearly all of >>>> VoiceOver's gestures, including swiping/flicking, using the rotor, >>>> and reading text. AccessNote will also be compatible with wireless >>>> refreshable braille displays. So far, AccessNote has been tested >>>> with the >>>> BraillePen12 from Aroga, >>>> which also has many commands for controlling an iOS device. >>>> >>>> Fast and Efficient Navigation >>>> >>>> Using the Apple Wireless Keyboard, users have several options for >>>> navigating a note. These options include navigating and reading by >>>> character, word, line, paragraph, page, or note. Users can also jump >>>> to a particular word or phrase with the Find feature, and users can >>>> also quickly jump to the top or bottom of a note. These navigation >>>> features also work on the device itself using standard and custom >>>> VoiceOver gestures, and most of the commands are available on >>>> wireless braille displays. >>>> >>>> Powerful Search Features >>>> >>>> AccessNote has two powerful features for searching notes: Search and >>>> Find. >>>> Search (found on the All Notes screen) is a global search tool used >>>> for searching for text throughout all of the user's files, and it >>>> can also search for file names. Find is used to search for text >>>> within the current note that is open.. >>>> To activate the Find feature, users can use the Option + F command >>>> for the keyboard or a "double-tap and hold" gesture for use on the >>>> iOS device itself. >>>> >>>> Automatic Saving and Syncing with Dropbox Files >>>> >>>> To avoid any data loss, all edits are automatically saved when >>>> typing in a note. AccessNote also syncs automatically with the >>>> user's Dropbox account, so you have all your files all of the time. >>>> >>>> Customized Keyboard Commands >>>> >>>> The AFB Tech lab was able to create a handful of customized keyboard >>>> commands for the Apple Wireless Keyboard. These commands include: >>>> >>>> list of 6 items >>>> . Option + C to create a new note. >>>> . Option + R to rename a note. >>>> . Option + F to search for text within a note. >>>> . Option + P to search for a previous note. >>>> . Option + O to move to the next note. >>>> . Option + M to mark a note as a favorite. >>>> list end >>>> >>>> Although these custom commands have not yet been added for the >>>> wireless braille displays, this could come in a future update. >>>> >>>> The Review Feature >>>> >>>> In case users simply want to read their notes (for example, when >>>> studying for an exam), there is a convenient "Review" button at the >>>> top of each note.. >>>> When >>>> using the Review feature, AccessNote is in a read-only mode, and >>>> thus, users don't have to worry about making any unwanted edits. >>>> There are also "tilt" >>>> gestures available when using the Review feature. Simply tilt the >>>> iOS device to the right to quickly switch to the next note or tilt >>>> it to the left to switch to the previous note. >>>> >>>> Options for Larger Text >>>> >>>> In Settings there is an option to choose the default text size. The >>>> available sizes are 14 point, 18 point, and 22 point font. >>>> AccessNote will also work with the Zoom feature built into iOS, but >>>> Zoom cannot be used at the same time as VoiceOver. >>>> >>>> Your Feedback Matters >>>> >>>> AFB Tech is very excited about AccessNote and has high hopes for its >>>> release. Because Apple's iOS devices are very powerful, AFB Tech >>>> wants to take advantage of that to allow students and professionals >>>> to use the same mainstream device that their sighted peers are >>>> using. The developers, of course, will be looking for feedback from >>>> those who purchase and use AccessNote, and they are anxious to hear >>>> your reactions to the new note taker. >>>> >>>> This of course turns the tables on the AFB Tech lab rats. For years, >>>> those in the AFB Tech product evaluation lab have been evaluating >>>> products designed by others and have never been known to pull any >>>> punches, so please let the lab have it if it has missed the mark. It >>>> is ready for the good, the bad, and the ugly. >>>> >>>> The AFB Tech lab appreciates the feedback received from readers >>>> using the AccessWorld app, which was the first iOS app AFB Tech >>>> developed in conjunction with FloCo Apps, LLC. The developers added >>>> several ideas provided by the readers to the AccessWorld app and >>>> hope to do the same for AccessNote upon its highly anticipated >>>> release. >>>> >>>> Stay tuned to AccessWorld and the AFB Blog for announcements of >>>> AccessNote's official release date. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "A person cannot survive as a true Spartan fan unless he is a bit of >>>> a masochist and a very large optimist." >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> Lansing, MI >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>> Google Group. >>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>> Google Group. >>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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