Paul: Yes, I find that most note taking apps & iOs apps in general are very easy to use with a keyboard. In regards to moving by line, this is a vo feature so yes, it's perfectly possible. Can't speak about finding text & editing since I don't really do iether on my iDevices. Scott makes a good point about integrating paragraphs into the roter.
Cheers, Ben. On 7/14/12, Scott Howell <[email protected]> wrote: > What would make more sense is if paragraph was added to the VoiceOver rotor. > I suspect that would be another tool in the kit. > > On Jul 14, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Paul Henrichsen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> John. Can you show me a notetaking app which will allow you to jump by >> paragraph? How about one that will allow you to find a phrase within a >> document then jump to that phrase. This app could be as powerful as having >> a braille notetaker but not spending the $6000. >> I'd rather pay for a notetaking app that would emulate a braille >> notetaker; that will do the same thing that it does. I'm no longer >> interested in spending $6000 just so I can have the notetaking and editing >> capabilities that a notetaker has. >> I don't consider that a blind ghetto product. >> >> On Jul 12, 2012, at 9:21 PM, Jon Pierson wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> Yes, most of the "features" mentioned, especially (all that talk of >>> compatibility) is due to Apple's implementations. The "Access World" app >>> seems to be nothing more than a proprietary reader for their own >>> publication. I'm starting to smell that ghetto mentality that says that >>> blind folk need different apps, devices and technology, not improvements >>> in >>> existing programs that would make us nearly equal. >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Ben Mustill-Rose >>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 4:32 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: AccessNote AFB's New Notetaker for your IOS Device >>> >>> They seem pretty proud that it works with wireless keyboards and braille >>> displays; I can't think of an app that I've used that works with vo that >>> isn't usable with a keyboard. The only vaguely interesting things seem to >>> be >>> the custom hotkeys and the tilt feature, although I'm not sure what's >>> wrong >>> with a turn the page style swipe. >>> AFB & the creaters almost certainly don't think it's worth the pricetag, >>> but >>> unfortunately this is just economies of scale coming into play - because >>> such a small amount of people will buy the app, they simply can't charge >>> any >>> less assuming they want to profit. It's a shame really; it doesn't sound >>> like it's going to be anything overly special, but for the mostpart, if >>> an >>> app has a nice UI (Which this probably will do), I'll buy it even if it >>> does >>> the same thing as another app that I already use, but in this case, it >>> looks >>> like it will be too much. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ben. >>> >>> On 7/12/12, Hope Paulos <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Wish it had Microsoft word format >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Jul 12, 2012, at 5:03 PM, Matthew Campbell >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi. >>>>> I'm sending this again as I'm not sure if it got through originally. >>>>> Sorry fore those of you seeing this again. >>>>> >>>>> How about a link to this article too? >>>>> I sure hope it's under $30. How about under $10 or I'm not buying. >>>>> It's a note taking app not a gold plated notebook. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2012-07-12, at 4:55 PM, Jessica Brown wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> How do I contact the AFB Tech lab with feedback? >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Steve" <[email protected] >>>>>> To: <[email protected]>,"the-facts-machine" >>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>> Date sent: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:41:49 -0400 >>>>>> Subject: AccessNote AFB's New Notetaker for your IOS Device >>>>>> >>>>>> BlankThis is the announcement, it is not released yet. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "A person cannot survive as a true Spartan fan unless he is a bit of >>>>>> a masochist and a very large optimist." >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve >>>>>> Lansing, MI >>>>>> >>>>>> AccessNote: AFB's New Note Taker for Your iOS Device >>>>>> >>>>>> Darren Burton and Ricky Kirkendall >>>>>> >>>>>> The AFB Tech lab is excited to announce that AFB will soon be >>>>>> releasing AccessNote, a note taker for your iPhone or other iOS >>>>>> device. AFB Tech, in conjunction with FloCo Apps, LLC, has designed >>>>>> what is expected to be a groundbreaking productivity tool for people >>>>>> with vision loss, and developers plan for its launch at the App >>>>>> Store later this summer. >>>>>> >>>>>> AccessNote is a powerful and efficient note taker that takes >>>>>> advantage of the tremendous built-in accessibility of your iPhone, >>>>>> iPod Touch, or iPad. >>>>>> To >>>>>> allow for much greater typing speed, increase accuracy, and permit >>>>>> keyboard commands, AccessNote is designed to be used with the Apple >>>>>> Wireless Keyboard >>>>>> (QWERTY) as well as wireless braille keyboards and displays. >>>>>> AccessNote will be completely compatible with VoiceOver and the iOS >>>>>> screen reader. It can be used without a keyboard, but a keyboard >>>>>> adds efficiency. >>>>>> >>>>>> Description of AccessNote >>>>>> >>>>>> Although there is not yet a final price point, AccessNote will be >>>>>> priced under $30, and it will have many of the features found in >>>>>> traditional note takers and accessible PDAs. AccessNote creates >>>>>> notes in the .TXT file format, and it can also import .TXT files >>>>>> from e-mail or Dropbox accounts. It is designed with a clean, simple >>>>>> interface that uses standard iOS design techniques, so its layout >>>>>> will be familiar to iOS device users. >>>>>> >>>>>> The home screen is titled All Notes, which is the heading at the top >>>>>> of the screen. The next element is the "Add" button (for adding a >>>>>> new note) followed by the Search field. Next is the user's list of >>>>>> files and notes, which includes a table index for quickly scrolling >>>>>> through notes. Finally, there are three buttons at the bottom of the >>>>>> home screen: "Settings," "Favorites," and "Help." Once the user is >>>>>> in a note, the screen includes a "Back" button to go back to the All >>>>>> Notes screen as well as a "Review" button for going into a read-only >>>>>> mode. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some of the features designed into AccessNote include: >>>>>> >>>>>> list of 7 items >>>>>> . Compatibility with the Apple Wireless Keyboard and wireless >>>>>> braille displays. >>>>>> . Fast and efficient navigation. >>>>>> . Powerful search features. >>>>>> . Automatic saving and syncing with Dropbox files. >>>>>> . Customized keyboard commands. >>>>>> . A review feature. >>>>>> . Options for larger text. >>>>>> list end >>>>>> >>>>>> Compatibility with the Apple Wireless Keyboard >>>>>> >>>>>> Although typing on an iOS touchscreen is certainly accessible, it is >>>>>> not nearly as efficient as using a traditional QWERTY keyboard, a >>>>>> primary reason for designing AccessNote for use with the Apple >>>>>> Wireless Keyboard (available from Apple for $69). Another reason is >>>>>> due to how well the Apple Wireless Keyboard works with VoiceOver to >>>>>> control an iOS device. There are keyboard commands for nearly all of >>>>>> VoiceOver's gestures, including swiping/flicking, using the rotor, >>>>>> and reading text. AccessNote will also be compatible with wireless >>>>>> refreshable braille displays. So far, AccessNote has been tested >>>>>> with the >>>>>> BraillePen12 from Aroga, >>>>>> which also has many commands for controlling an iOS device. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fast and Efficient Navigation >>>>>> >>>>>> Using the Apple Wireless Keyboard, users have several options for >>>>>> navigating a note. These options include navigating and reading by >>>>>> character, word, line, paragraph, page, or note. Users can also jump >>>>>> to a particular word or phrase with the Find feature, and users can >>>>>> also quickly jump to the top or bottom of a note. These navigation >>>>>> features also work on the device itself using standard and custom >>>>>> VoiceOver gestures, and most of the commands are available on >>>>>> wireless braille displays. >>>>>> >>>>>> Powerful Search Features >>>>>> >>>>>> AccessNote has two powerful features for searching notes: Search and >>>>>> Find. >>>>>> Search (found on the All Notes screen) is a global search tool used >>>>>> for searching for text throughout all of the user's files, and it >>>>>> can also search for file names. Find is used to search for text >>>>>> within the current note that is open.. >>>>>> To activate the Find feature, users can use the Option + F command >>>>>> for the keyboard or a "double-tap and hold" gesture for use on the >>>>>> iOS device itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Automatic Saving and Syncing with Dropbox Files >>>>>> >>>>>> To avoid any data loss, all edits are automatically saved when >>>>>> typing in a note. AccessNote also syncs automatically with the >>>>>> user's Dropbox account, so you have all your files all of the time. >>>>>> >>>>>> Customized Keyboard Commands >>>>>> >>>>>> The AFB Tech lab was able to create a handful of customized keyboard >>>>>> commands for the Apple Wireless Keyboard. These commands include: >>>>>> >>>>>> list of 6 items >>>>>> . Option + C to create a new note. >>>>>> . Option + R to rename a note. >>>>>> . Option + F to search for text within a note. >>>>>> . Option + P to search for a previous note. >>>>>> . Option + O to move to the next note. >>>>>> . Option + M to mark a note as a favorite. >>>>>> list end >>>>>> >>>>>> Although these custom commands have not yet been added for the >>>>>> wireless braille displays, this could come in a future update. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Review Feature >>>>>> >>>>>> In case users simply want to read their notes (for example, when >>>>>> studying for an exam), there is a convenient "Review" button at the >>>>>> top of each note.. >>>>>> When >>>>>> using the Review feature, AccessNote is in a read-only mode, and >>>>>> thus, users don't have to worry about making any unwanted edits. >>>>>> There are also "tilt" >>>>>> gestures available when using the Review feature. Simply tilt the >>>>>> iOS device to the right to quickly switch to the next note or tilt >>>>>> it to the left to switch to the previous note. >>>>>> >>>>>> Options for Larger Text >>>>>> >>>>>> In Settings there is an option to choose the default text size. The >>>>>> available sizes are 14 point, 18 point, and 22 point font. >>>>>> AccessNote will also work with the Zoom feature built into iOS, but >>>>>> Zoom cannot be used at the same time as VoiceOver. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your Feedback Matters >>>>>> >>>>>> AFB Tech is very excited about AccessNote and has high hopes for its >>>>>> release. Because Apple's iOS devices are very powerful, AFB Tech >>>>>> wants to take advantage of that to allow students and professionals >>>>>> to use the same mainstream device that their sighted peers are >>>>>> using. The developers, of course, will be looking for feedback from >>>>>> those who purchase and use AccessNote, and they are anxious to hear >>>>>> your reactions to the new note taker. >>>>>> >>>>>> This of course turns the tables on the AFB Tech lab rats. For years, >>>>>> those in the AFB Tech product evaluation lab have been evaluating >>>>>> products designed by others and have never been known to pull any >>>>>> punches, so please let the lab have it if it has missed the mark. It >>>>>> is ready for the good, the bad, and the ugly. >>>>>> >>>>>> The AFB Tech lab appreciates the feedback received from readers >>>>>> using the AccessWorld app, which was the first iOS app AFB Tech >>>>>> developed in conjunction with FloCo Apps, LLC. The developers added >>>>>> several ideas provided by the readers to the AccessWorld app and >>>>>> hope to do the same for AccessNote upon its highly anticipated >>>>>> release. >>>>>> >>>>>> Stay tuned to AccessWorld and the AFB Blog for announcements of >>>>>> AccessNote's official release date. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "A person cannot survive as a true Spartan fan unless he is a bit of >>>>>> a masochist and a very large optimist." >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve >>>>>> Lansing, MI >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>>> Google Group. >>>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>>> Google Group. >>>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>> Google Group. >>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>> Google Group. >>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google >>> Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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