But, Ben. You're entirely missing the point. Yes. You can use any notetaker app with a standard bluetooth keyboard on your iPhone. But have you ever tried editing a document in the notetakers bought from the app store? Have you ever tried to figure out using the standard keyboard or a braille keyboard how to move by line or paragraph as you can with a braille notetaker? I've looked at a lot of notetakers and I have yet to find one from the app store which allows me to go into a large document then do a find for a phrase and jump to that place within the document. I've seen a few which will show me the last few documents I have opened, but not very many. I don't care about the dropbox thing. Lots of notetakers do that. But if this app can ever have the same functionality that a braille sense or humanware notetaker has, I'm all for it. Paying $30 is a lot better than paying four to 6000.
On Jul 12, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: > They seem pretty proud that it works with wireless keyboards and > braille displays; I can't think of an app that I've used that works > with vo that isn't usable with a keyboard. The only vaguely > interesting things seem to be the custom hotkeys and the tilt feature, > although I'm not sure what's wrong with a turn the page style swipe. > AFB & the creaters almost certainly don't think it's worth the > pricetag, but unfortunately this is just economies of scale coming > into play - because such a small amount of people will buy the app, > they simply can't charge any less assuming they want to profit. It's a > shame really; it doesn't sound like it's going to be anything overly > special, but for the mostpart, if an app has a nice UI (Which this > probably will do), I'll buy it even if it does the same thing as > another app that I already use, but in this case, it looks like it > will be too much. > > Cheers, > Ben. > > On 7/12/12, Hope Paulos <[email protected]> wrote: >> Wish it had Microsoft word format >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 12, 2012, at 5:03 PM, Matthew Campbell <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> I'm sending this again as I'm not sure if it got through originally. >>> Sorry fore those of you seeing this again. >>> >>> How about a link to this article too? >>> I sure hope it's under $30. How about under $10 or I'm not buying. It's a >>> note taking app not a gold plated notebook. >>> >>> >>> On 2012-07-12, at 4:55 PM, Jessica Brown wrote: >>> >>>> How do I contact the AFB Tech lab with feedback? >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Steve" <[email protected] >>>> To: <[email protected]>,"the-facts-machine" >>>> <[email protected] >>>> Date sent: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:41:49 -0400 >>>> Subject: AccessNote AFB's New Notetaker for your IOS Device >>>> >>>> BlankThis is the announcement, it is not released yet. >>>> >>>> >>>> "A person cannot survive as a true Spartan fan unless he is a bit of a >>>> masochist and a very large optimist." >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> Lansing, MI >>>> >>>> AccessNote: AFB's New Note Taker for Your iOS Device >>>> >>>> Darren Burton and Ricky Kirkendall >>>> >>>> The AFB Tech lab is excited to announce that AFB will soon be releasing >>>> AccessNote, a note taker for your iPhone or other iOS device. AFB Tech, >>>> in >>>> conjunction >>>> with FloCo Apps, LLC, has designed what is expected to be a >>>> groundbreaking >>>> productivity tool for people with vision loss, and developers plan for >>>> its >>>> launch >>>> at the App Store later this summer. >>>> >>>> AccessNote is a powerful and efficient note taker that takes advantage >>>> of >>>> the tremendous built-in accessibility of your iPhone, iPod Touch, or >>>> iPad. >>>> To >>>> allow for much greater typing speed, increase accuracy, and permit >>>> keyboard >>>> commands, AccessNote is designed to be used with the Apple Wireless >>>> Keyboard >>>> (QWERTY) as well as wireless braille keyboards and displays. AccessNote >>>> will >>>> be completely compatible with VoiceOver and the iOS screen reader. It >>>> can >>>> be used without a keyboard, but a keyboard adds efficiency. >>>> >>>> Description of AccessNote >>>> >>>> Although there is not yet a final price point, AccessNote will be priced >>>> under $30, and it will have many of the features found in traditional >>>> note >>>> takers >>>> and accessible PDAs. AccessNote creates notes in the .TXT file format, >>>> and >>>> it can also import .TXT files from e-mail or Dropbox accounts. It is >>>> designed >>>> with a clean, simple interface that uses standard iOS design techniques, >>>> so >>>> its layout will be familiar to iOS device users. >>>> >>>> The home screen is titled All Notes, which is the heading at the top of >>>> the >>>> screen. The next element is the "Add" button (for adding a new note) >>>> followed >>>> by the Search field. Next is the user's list of files and notes, which >>>> includes a table index for quickly scrolling through notes. Finally, >>>> there >>>> are three >>>> buttons at the bottom of the home screen: "Settings," "Favorites," and >>>> "Help." Once the user is in a note, the screen includes a "Back" button >>>> to >>>> go back >>>> to the All Notes screen as well as a "Review" button for going into a >>>> read-only mode. >>>> >>>> Some of the features designed into AccessNote include: >>>> >>>> list of 7 items >>>> • Compatibility with the Apple Wireless Keyboard and wireless braille >>>> displays. >>>> • Fast and efficient navigation. >>>> • Powerful search features. >>>> • Automatic saving and syncing with Dropbox files. >>>> • Customized keyboard commands. >>>> • A review feature. >>>> • Options for larger text. >>>> list end >>>> >>>> Compatibility with the Apple Wireless Keyboard >>>> >>>> Although typing on an iOS touchscreen is certainly accessible, it is not >>>> nearly as efficient as using a traditional QWERTY keyboard, a primary >>>> reason >>>> for >>>> designing AccessNote for use with the >>>> Apple Wireless Keyboard >>>> (available from Apple for $69). Another reason is due to how well the >>>> Apple >>>> Wireless Keyboard works with VoiceOver to control an iOS device. There >>>> are >>>> keyboard commands for nearly all of VoiceOver's gestures, including >>>> swiping/flicking, using the rotor, and reading text. AccessNote will also >>>> be >>>> compatible >>>> with wireless refreshable braille displays. So far, AccessNote has been >>>> tested with the >>>> BraillePen12 from Aroga, >>>> which also has many commands for controlling an iOS device. >>>> >>>> Fast and Efficient Navigation >>>> >>>> Using the Apple Wireless Keyboard, users have several options for >>>> navigating >>>> a note. These options include navigating and reading by character, word, >>>> line, >>>> paragraph, page, or note. Users can also jump to a particular word or >>>> phrase >>>> with the Find feature, and users can also quickly jump to the top or >>>> bottom >>>> of a note. These navigation features also work on the device itself >>>> using >>>> standard and custom VoiceOver gestures, and most of the commands are >>>> available >>>> on wireless braille displays. >>>> >>>> Powerful Search Features >>>> >>>> AccessNote has two powerful features for searching notes: Search and >>>> Find. >>>> Search (found on the All Notes screen) is a global search tool used for >>>> searching >>>> for text throughout all of the user's files, and it can also search for >>>> file >>>> names. Find is used to search for text within the current note that is >>>> open.. >>>> To activate the Find feature, users can use the Option + F command for >>>> the >>>> keyboard or a "double-tap and hold" gesture for use on the iOS device >>>> itself. >>>> >>>> Automatic Saving and Syncing with Dropbox Files >>>> >>>> To avoid any data loss, all edits are automatically saved when typing in >>>> a >>>> note. AccessNote also syncs automatically with the user's Dropbox >>>> account, >>>> so >>>> you have all your files all of the time. >>>> >>>> Customized Keyboard Commands >>>> >>>> The AFB Tech lab was able to create a handful of customized keyboard >>>> commands for the Apple Wireless Keyboard. These commands include: >>>> >>>> list of 6 items >>>> • Option + C to create a new note. >>>> • Option + R to rename a note. >>>> • Option + F to search for text within a note. >>>> • Option + P to search for a previous note. >>>> • Option + O to move to the next note. >>>> • Option + M to mark a note as a favorite. >>>> list end >>>> >>>> Although these custom commands have not yet been added for the wireless >>>> braille displays, this could come in a future update. >>>> >>>> The Review Feature >>>> >>>> In case users simply want to read their notes (for example, when >>>> studying >>>> for an exam), there is a convenient "Review" button at the top of each >>>> note.. >>>> When >>>> using the Review feature, AccessNote is in a read-only mode, and thus, >>>> users >>>> don't have to worry about making any unwanted edits. There are also >>>> "tilt" >>>> gestures available when using the Review feature. Simply tilt the iOS >>>> device >>>> to the right to quickly switch to the next note or tilt it to the left >>>> to >>>> switch to the previous note. >>>> >>>> Options for Larger Text >>>> >>>> In Settings there is an option to choose the default text size. The >>>> available sizes are 14 point, 18 point, and 22 point font. AccessNote >>>> will >>>> also work >>>> with the Zoom feature built into iOS, but Zoom cannot be used at the >>>> same >>>> time as VoiceOver. >>>> >>>> Your Feedback Matters >>>> >>>> AFB Tech is very excited about AccessNote and has high hopes for its >>>> release. Because Apple's iOS devices are very powerful, AFB Tech wants >>>> to >>>> take advantage >>>> of that to allow students and professionals to use the same mainstream >>>> device that their sighted peers are using. The developers, of course, >>>> will >>>> be looking >>>> for feedback from those who purchase and use AccessNote, and they are >>>> anxious to hear your reactions to the new note taker. >>>> >>>> This of course turns the tables on the AFB Tech lab rats. For years, >>>> those >>>> in the AFB Tech product evaluation lab have been evaluating products >>>> designed >>>> by others and have never been known to pull any punches, so please let >>>> the >>>> lab have it if it has missed the mark. It is ready for the good, the >>>> bad, >>>> and >>>> the ugly. >>>> >>>> The AFB Tech lab appreciates the feedback received from readers using >>>> the >>>> AccessWorld app, which was the first iOS app AFB Tech developed in >>>> conjunction >>>> with FloCo Apps, LLC. The developers added several ideas provided by the >>>> readers to the AccessWorld app and hope to do the same for AccessNote >>>> upon >>>> its >>>> highly anticipated release. >>>> >>>> Stay tuned to AccessWorld and the AFB Blog for announcements of >>>> AccessNote's >>>> official release date. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "A person cannot survive as a true Spartan fan unless he is a bit of a >>>> masochist and a very large optimist." >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> Lansing, MI >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>> Google Group. >>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>> Google Group. >>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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