What would make more sense is if paragraph was added to the VoiceOver rotor. I suspect that would be another tool in the kit.
On Jul 14, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Paul Henrichsen <[email protected]> wrote: > John. Can you show me a notetaking app which will allow you to jump by > paragraph? How about one that will allow you to find a phrase within a > document then jump to that phrase. This app could be as powerful as having a > braille notetaker but not spending the $6000. > I'd rather pay for a notetaking app that would emulate a braille notetaker; > that will do the same thing that it does. I'm no longer interested in > spending $6000 just so I can have the notetaking and editing capabilities > that a notetaker has. > I don't consider that a blind ghetto product. > > On Jul 12, 2012, at 9:21 PM, Jon Pierson wrote: > >> Hi, >> Yes, most of the "features" mentioned, especially (all that talk of >> compatibility) is due to Apple's implementations. The "Access World" app >> seems to be nothing more than a proprietary reader for their own >> publication. I'm starting to smell that ghetto mentality that says that >> blind folk need different apps, devices and technology, not improvements in >> existing programs that would make us nearly equal. >> >> Jon >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Ben Mustill-Rose >> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 4:32 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: AccessNote AFB's New Notetaker for your IOS Device >> >> They seem pretty proud that it works with wireless keyboards and braille >> displays; I can't think of an app that I've used that works with vo that >> isn't usable with a keyboard. The only vaguely interesting things seem to be >> the custom hotkeys and the tilt feature, although I'm not sure what's wrong >> with a turn the page style swipe. >> AFB & the creaters almost certainly don't think it's worth the pricetag, but >> unfortunately this is just economies of scale coming into play - because >> such a small amount of people will buy the app, they simply can't charge any >> less assuming they want to profit. It's a shame really; it doesn't sound >> like it's going to be anything overly special, but for the mostpart, if an >> app has a nice UI (Which this probably will do), I'll buy it even if it does >> the same thing as another app that I already use, but in this case, it looks >> like it will be too much. >> >> Cheers, >> Ben. >> >> On 7/12/12, Hope Paulos <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Wish it had Microsoft word format >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 12, 2012, at 5:03 PM, Matthew Campbell >>> <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi. >>>> I'm sending this again as I'm not sure if it got through originally. >>>> Sorry fore those of you seeing this again. >>>> >>>> How about a link to this article too? >>>> I sure hope it's under $30. How about under $10 or I'm not buying. >>>> It's a note taking app not a gold plated notebook. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2012-07-12, at 4:55 PM, Jessica Brown wrote: >>>> >>>>> How do I contact the AFB Tech lab with feedback? >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Steve" <[email protected] >>>>> To: <[email protected]>,"the-facts-machine" >>>>> <[email protected] >>>>> Date sent: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:41:49 -0400 >>>>> Subject: AccessNote AFB's New Notetaker for your IOS Device >>>>> >>>>> BlankThis is the announcement, it is not released yet. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "A person cannot survive as a true Spartan fan unless he is a bit of >>>>> a masochist and a very large optimist." >>>>> >>>>> Steve >>>>> Lansing, MI >>>>> >>>>> AccessNote: AFB's New Note Taker for Your iOS Device >>>>> >>>>> Darren Burton and Ricky Kirkendall >>>>> >>>>> The AFB Tech lab is excited to announce that AFB will soon be >>>>> releasing AccessNote, a note taker for your iPhone or other iOS >>>>> device. AFB Tech, in conjunction with FloCo Apps, LLC, has designed >>>>> what is expected to be a groundbreaking productivity tool for people >>>>> with vision loss, and developers plan for its launch at the App >>>>> Store later this summer. >>>>> >>>>> AccessNote is a powerful and efficient note taker that takes >>>>> advantage of the tremendous built-in accessibility of your iPhone, >>>>> iPod Touch, or iPad. >>>>> To >>>>> allow for much greater typing speed, increase accuracy, and permit >>>>> keyboard commands, AccessNote is designed to be used with the Apple >>>>> Wireless Keyboard >>>>> (QWERTY) as well as wireless braille keyboards and displays. >>>>> AccessNote will be completely compatible with VoiceOver and the iOS >>>>> screen reader. It can be used without a keyboard, but a keyboard >>>>> adds efficiency. >>>>> >>>>> Description of AccessNote >>>>> >>>>> Although there is not yet a final price point, AccessNote will be >>>>> priced under $30, and it will have many of the features found in >>>>> traditional note takers and accessible PDAs. AccessNote creates >>>>> notes in the .TXT file format, and it can also import .TXT files >>>>> from e-mail or Dropbox accounts. It is designed with a clean, simple >>>>> interface that uses standard iOS design techniques, so its layout >>>>> will be familiar to iOS device users. >>>>> >>>>> The home screen is titled All Notes, which is the heading at the top >>>>> of the screen. The next element is the "Add" button (for adding a >>>>> new note) followed by the Search field. Next is the user's list of >>>>> files and notes, which includes a table index for quickly scrolling >>>>> through notes. Finally, there are three buttons at the bottom of the >>>>> home screen: "Settings," "Favorites," and "Help." Once the user is >>>>> in a note, the screen includes a "Back" button to go back to the All >>>>> Notes screen as well as a "Review" button for going into a read-only >>>>> mode. >>>>> >>>>> Some of the features designed into AccessNote include: >>>>> >>>>> list of 7 items >>>>> . Compatibility with the Apple Wireless Keyboard and wireless >>>>> braille displays. >>>>> . Fast and efficient navigation. >>>>> . Powerful search features. >>>>> . Automatic saving and syncing with Dropbox files. >>>>> . Customized keyboard commands. >>>>> . A review feature. >>>>> . Options for larger text. >>>>> list end >>>>> >>>>> Compatibility with the Apple Wireless Keyboard >>>>> >>>>> Although typing on an iOS touchscreen is certainly accessible, it is >>>>> not nearly as efficient as using a traditional QWERTY keyboard, a >>>>> primary reason for designing AccessNote for use with the Apple >>>>> Wireless Keyboard (available from Apple for $69). Another reason is >>>>> due to how well the Apple Wireless Keyboard works with VoiceOver to >>>>> control an iOS device. There are keyboard commands for nearly all of >>>>> VoiceOver's gestures, including swiping/flicking, using the rotor, >>>>> and reading text. AccessNote will also be compatible with wireless >>>>> refreshable braille displays. So far, AccessNote has been tested >>>>> with the >>>>> BraillePen12 from Aroga, >>>>> which also has many commands for controlling an iOS device. >>>>> >>>>> Fast and Efficient Navigation >>>>> >>>>> Using the Apple Wireless Keyboard, users have several options for >>>>> navigating a note. These options include navigating and reading by >>>>> character, word, line, paragraph, page, or note. Users can also jump >>>>> to a particular word or phrase with the Find feature, and users can >>>>> also quickly jump to the top or bottom of a note. These navigation >>>>> features also work on the device itself using standard and custom >>>>> VoiceOver gestures, and most of the commands are available on >>>>> wireless braille displays. >>>>> >>>>> Powerful Search Features >>>>> >>>>> AccessNote has two powerful features for searching notes: Search and >>>>> Find. >>>>> Search (found on the All Notes screen) is a global search tool used >>>>> for searching for text throughout all of the user's files, and it >>>>> can also search for file names. Find is used to search for text >>>>> within the current note that is open.. >>>>> To activate the Find feature, users can use the Option + F command >>>>> for the keyboard or a "double-tap and hold" gesture for use on the >>>>> iOS device itself. >>>>> >>>>> Automatic Saving and Syncing with Dropbox Files >>>>> >>>>> To avoid any data loss, all edits are automatically saved when >>>>> typing in a note. AccessNote also syncs automatically with the >>>>> user's Dropbox account, so you have all your files all of the time. >>>>> >>>>> Customized Keyboard Commands >>>>> >>>>> The AFB Tech lab was able to create a handful of customized keyboard >>>>> commands for the Apple Wireless Keyboard. These commands include: >>>>> >>>>> list of 6 items >>>>> . Option + C to create a new note. >>>>> . Option + R to rename a note. >>>>> . Option + F to search for text within a note. >>>>> . Option + P to search for a previous note. >>>>> . Option + O to move to the next note. >>>>> . Option + M to mark a note as a favorite. >>>>> list end >>>>> >>>>> Although these custom commands have not yet been added for the >>>>> wireless braille displays, this could come in a future update. >>>>> >>>>> The Review Feature >>>>> >>>>> In case users simply want to read their notes (for example, when >>>>> studying for an exam), there is a convenient "Review" button at the >>>>> top of each note.. >>>>> When >>>>> using the Review feature, AccessNote is in a read-only mode, and >>>>> thus, users don't have to worry about making any unwanted edits. >>>>> There are also "tilt" >>>>> gestures available when using the Review feature. Simply tilt the >>>>> iOS device to the right to quickly switch to the next note or tilt >>>>> it to the left to switch to the previous note. >>>>> >>>>> Options for Larger Text >>>>> >>>>> In Settings there is an option to choose the default text size. The >>>>> available sizes are 14 point, 18 point, and 22 point font. >>>>> AccessNote will also work with the Zoom feature built into iOS, but >>>>> Zoom cannot be used at the same time as VoiceOver. >>>>> >>>>> Your Feedback Matters >>>>> >>>>> AFB Tech is very excited about AccessNote and has high hopes for its >>>>> release. Because Apple's iOS devices are very powerful, AFB Tech >>>>> wants to take advantage of that to allow students and professionals >>>>> to use the same mainstream device that their sighted peers are >>>>> using. The developers, of course, will be looking for feedback from >>>>> those who purchase and use AccessNote, and they are anxious to hear >>>>> your reactions to the new note taker. >>>>> >>>>> This of course turns the tables on the AFB Tech lab rats. For years, >>>>> those in the AFB Tech product evaluation lab have been evaluating >>>>> products designed by others and have never been known to pull any >>>>> punches, so please let the lab have it if it has missed the mark. It >>>>> is ready for the good, the bad, and the ugly. >>>>> >>>>> The AFB Tech lab appreciates the feedback received from readers >>>>> using the AccessWorld app, which was the first iOS app AFB Tech >>>>> developed in conjunction with FloCo Apps, LLC. The developers added >>>>> several ideas provided by the readers to the AccessWorld app and >>>>> hope to do the same for AccessNote upon its highly anticipated >>>>> release. >>>>> >>>>> Stay tuned to AccessWorld and the AFB Blog for announcements of >>>>> AccessNote's official release date. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "A person cannot survive as a true Spartan fan unless he is a bit of >>>>> a masochist and a very large optimist." >>>>> >>>>> Steve >>>>> Lansing, MI >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>> Google Group. >>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>> Google Group. >>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>> Google Group. >>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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