Yes, I am totally blind. I do have basic light perception though. I had a friend show me how to use a mouse about 15 years ago. The thing that was hardest for me to grasp was how small the movements are. When I got my first laptop with a touch-pad, I had him move my finger around it, just like we did with the mouse. Again, I was amazed at how small the movements were. When I first got my iPhone, I needed to teach myself to make small movements when exploring the screen, just like the mouse and touch-pad from the past. When I learned that iOS gesture commands were being added to VO on the mac, I knew it was time to change. I want to do things as much as possible the same ways my sighted colleagues do them. So, I relished the idea of switching to the track-pad. In fact, I am still a little disappointed that there isn't a full-screen display mode which works like the iPhone display. It would be great to stop interacting out to full-screen, find where another window is (or the dock or apple toolbar for that matter, and then interact in to that item. I could then get the same relational view of the display that I have with my iPhone, and would not need to try and memorise even more bloody esoteric commands.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: [email protected] Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 10/08/2012, at 2:34, Marianne Denning <[email protected]> wrote: > David, are you totally blind? If so, did you find the touch pad > difficult in the beginning? I have not even attempted it yet. > > On 8/8/12, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: >> Yep, it is a very different system. First pointer, forget everything you >> know about windows and your former screen reader. >> >> Next, get your head wrapped around the concept of interacting. Interacting >> tightens your focus in to a specific manipulatable area. You can interact >> multiple times to work your way down layers. For me, interacting was >> extremely confusing to really figure out. >> >> Also, Windows control is not Mac control. On Mac command structure, control, >> option, and command each have specific ways of effecting things. Command, >> which is in the same location as alt in Windows, is the key used for direct >> manipulation. So, command c copies whilst command v pastes. That said, there >> are other command key commands which directly translate from Windows alt, >> such as command tab to switch between open windows on the Mac. >> >> I haven't committed all of the Mac commands and VO commands to memory. >> Instead, I use the touch-pad a lot. >> >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: [email protected] >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 09/08/2012, at 14:06, Marianne Denning <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I have really been doing pretty well but there a couple of things that >>> baffle me. It is really different than Windows and JAWS. >>> >>> On 8/8/12, Mary-Jo Lord <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I tried to join that list around a week ago. I just got mine a week and >>>> a >>>> half ago and think I need a tutorial called Mac for Morons or something. >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of Marianne Denning >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:46 PM >>>> To: viphone >>>> Subject: OT MacBook >>>> >>>> I recently purchased a MacBook Air and have requested to join a listserv >>>> but >>>> my request is pending. I have a question about VO on the computer and >>>> would >>>> appreciate someone with knowledge about VO contacting me off list. >>>> >>>> Marianne Denning >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>> Google >>>> Group. >>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>> Google >>>> Group. >>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
