That would be great. I love knowing where things are placed on the iPhone.
Sent from my iPhone On Aug 10, 2012, at 7:26 AM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, I am totally blind. I do have basic light perception though. > > I had a friend show me how to use a mouse about 15 years ago. The thing that > was hardest for me to grasp was how small the movements are. When I got my > first laptop with a touch-pad, I had him move my finger around it, just like > we did with the mouse. Again, I was amazed at how small the movements were. > When I first got my iPhone, I needed to teach myself to make small movements > when exploring the screen, just like the mouse and touch-pad from the past. > When I learned that iOS gesture commands were being added to VO on the mac, I > knew it was time to change. I want to do things as much as possible the same > ways my sighted colleagues do them. So, I relished the idea of switching to > the track-pad. In fact, I am still a little disappointed that there isn't a > full-screen display mode which works like the iPhone display. It would be > great to stop interacting out to full-screen, find where another window is > (or the dock or apple toolbar for that matter, and then interact in to that > item. I could then get the same relational view of the display that I have > with my iPhone, and would not need to try and memorise even more bloody > esoteric commands. > > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: [email protected] > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 10/08/2012, at 2:34, Marianne Denning <[email protected]> wrote: > >> David, are you totally blind? If so, did you find the touch pad >> difficult in the beginning? I have not even attempted it yet. >> >> On 8/8/12, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Yep, it is a very different system. First pointer, forget everything you >>> know about windows and your former screen reader. >>> >>> Next, get your head wrapped around the concept of interacting. Interacting >>> tightens your focus in to a specific manipulatable area. You can interact >>> multiple times to work your way down layers. For me, interacting was >>> extremely confusing to really figure out. >>> >>> Also, Windows control is not Mac control. On Mac command structure, control, >>> option, and command each have specific ways of effecting things. Command, >>> which is in the same location as alt in Windows, is the key used for direct >>> manipulation. So, command c copies whilst command v pastes. That said, there >>> are other command key commands which directly translate from Windows alt, >>> such as command tab to switch between open windows on the Mac. >>> >>> I haven't committed all of the Mac commands and VO commands to memory. >>> Instead, I use the touch-pad a lot. >>> >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 09/08/2012, at 14:06, Marianne Denning <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I have really been doing pretty well but there a couple of things that >>>> baffle me. It is really different than Windows and JAWS. >>>> >>>> On 8/8/12, Mary-Jo Lord <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> I tried to join that list around a week ago. I just got mine a week and >>>>> a >>>>> half ago and think I need a tutorial called Mac for Morons or something. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>> Behalf >>>>> Of Marianne Denning >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:46 PM >>>>> To: viphone >>>>> Subject: OT MacBook >>>>> >>>>> I recently purchased a MacBook Air and have requested to join a listserv >>>>> but >>>>> my request is pending. 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