Hi marryanne. While David Woodbridge's podcasts are good for Mountain Lion, he has produced a lot of others for more beginner type things which you can find on the Vision Australia website. Start with the Snow Leopard podcasts, since very little has changed in how we do things since that time, and these podcasts sort of build on one another. http://visionaustralia.org/info.aspx?page=2287
HTH, Scott On 8/10/12, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, I am totally blind. I do have basic light perception though. > > I had a friend show me how to use a mouse about 15 years ago. The thing that > was hardest for me to grasp was how small the movements are. When I got my > first laptop with a touch-pad, I had him move my finger around it, just like > we did with the mouse. Again, I was amazed at how small the movements were. > When I first got my iPhone, I needed to teach myself to make small movements > when exploring the screen, just like the mouse and touch-pad from the past. > When I learned that iOS gesture commands were being added to VO on the mac, > I knew it was time to change. I want to do things as much as possible the > same ways my sighted colleagues do them. So, I relished the idea of > switching to the track-pad. In fact, I am still a little disappointed that > there isn't a full-screen display mode which works like the iPhone display. > It would be great to stop interacting out to full-screen, find where another > window is (or the dock or apple toolbar for that matter, and then interact > in to that item. I could then get the same relational view of the display > that I have with my iPhone, and would not need to try and memorise even more > bloody esoteric commands. > > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: [email protected] > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 10/08/2012, at 2:34, Marianne Denning <[email protected]> wrote: > >> David, are you totally blind? If so, did you find the touch pad >> difficult in the beginning? I have not even attempted it yet. >> >> On 8/8/12, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Yep, it is a very different system. First pointer, forget everything you >>> know about windows and your former screen reader. >>> >>> Next, get your head wrapped around the concept of interacting. >>> Interacting >>> tightens your focus in to a specific manipulatable area. You can >>> interact >>> multiple times to work your way down layers. For me, interacting was >>> extremely confusing to really figure out. >>> >>> Also, Windows control is not Mac control. On Mac command structure, >>> control, >>> option, and command each have specific ways of effecting things. >>> Command, >>> which is in the same location as alt in Windows, is the key used for >>> direct >>> manipulation. So, command c copies whilst command v pastes. That said, >>> there >>> are other command key commands which directly translate from Windows >>> alt, >>> such as command tab to switch between open windows on the Mac. >>> >>> I haven't committed all of the Mac commands and VO commands to memory. >>> Instead, I use the touch-pad a lot. >>> >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 09/08/2012, at 14:06, Marianne Denning <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I have really been doing pretty well but there a couple of things that >>>> baffle me. It is really different than Windows and JAWS. >>>> >>>> On 8/8/12, Mary-Jo Lord <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> I tried to join that list around a week ago. I just got mine a week >>>>> and >>>>> a >>>>> half ago and think I need a tutorial called Mac for Morons or >>>>> something. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>> Behalf >>>>> Of Marianne Denning >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:46 PM >>>>> To: viphone >>>>> Subject: OT MacBook >>>>> >>>>> I recently purchased a MacBook Air and have requested to join a >>>>> listserv >>>>> but >>>>> my request is pending. I have a question about VO on the computer and >>>>> would >>>>> appreciate someone with knowledge about VO contacting me off list. >>>>> >>>>> Marianne Denning >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>> Google >>>>> Group. >>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>> Google >>>>> Group. >>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>> Google Group. >>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google >>> Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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