Listen before you buy. Or be sure to have a return policy. This is true with 
all audio hifi gear.

I heard rumors that Sonos was looking at developing an online backup solution 
of playlists made within the Sonos app. From for example Tidal, Spotify and 
apple music and hard drive into a single playlist in the Sonos app. A backup in 
«my account» in Sonos online. Have this happened yet?

It is possible to use a play1, 3 or 5 as a backup if you don’t reset one of 
theese. Choose connect to excisting network after reset of a device. Did not 
get an answer about online backup from support. Therefore, i ask here.

Take care

11. mars 2016 kl. 20:12 skrev Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com>:

Well, I will let the experts answer most of your questions. I can tell you that 
the AppleTV will work with Sonos play bar. I was told to make sure that I use 
Dolby Digital for this to work. As far as speakers are concerned, my 
understanding is at the play bar contains nine speakers.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 11, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Ron Pelletier <ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Hi Sieghard,
>  
> I did not read yet about the playbar. Can you give me an idea of the 
> difference in sound I would have against my high end Yamaha which, as you 
> well said, is not very accessible at all except for basic functions.
>  
> For instance, could I plug in my CD player into the playbar? How large is it? 
> Does it include speakers. I have now moved to a smaller apartment and, in 
> time, I would like to modernize and go smaller. I have 2 large Rega speakers, 
> 2 medium size Mission speakers and a subwover and all that takes a lot of 
> space. I have to say that my set-top box is plugged into my sound system so 
> that the TV sounds very good. In time, I would also like to get an Apple TV. 
> Would it go into the Sonos Playbar?
>  
> A lot to think about. My sound system is about 8 years old and still working 
> very well for now. Would it be a waste for now to get the Connect and then 
> use it later on as you are using yours?    My bedroom is very small so I’m 
> wondering if the Play1 speakers would be enough.
> I guess I’ll have to find a Sonos dealer in Montreal to see if I can go and 
> listen.
>  
> Ron & Danvers
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Sonos
>  
> Hi Ron,
>  
> What you describe will work fine. The question is how old your Yamaha system 
> is and your end goal. I bought a high-end Sony surround receiver in 2009 
> which at the time was $1,500 and since I already had a Sonos Connect I did 
> exactly what you are planning to do. I had two front, a centre and two rear 
> in-ceiling speakers hooked up, but no Subwover. 3 years ago I ended up caving 
> in and I ordered a Playbar, Sonos Su and 2 Play 1 speakers as rear speakers 
> and I have never looked back. My living room gained more space since my two 
> front speakers are gone, my TV/stereo shelf doesn’t have a huge receiver 
> sitting on it and I am now using that Connect player at my store and there is 
> a lot less cable. Also, there is of course the fact that Sonos is fully 
> accessible whereas my Sony receiver was useable in terms of switching inputs 
> and basic functions, but a lot of advanced functionality was not accessible.
>  
> If you aren’t planning to get rid of your Yamaha receiver and speakers I’d 
> say go for the Connect, but if it’s an older system you may consider buying a 
> Playbar instead of a Connect and later add a Sub and two Play 1 as surround.
>  
> Using a Play 3 or Play 5 in the bedroom is of course a great idea, here you 
> really have to decide how much you can and want to spend. It used to be that 
> the Play 1, 3 and 5 were $199, $299 and $399 US, but now the new Play 5 
> jumped up to $499 so you could buy a set of Play 1 and put them into stereo 
> mode for less than a single Play 5. You should maybe go to a reseller that 
> sells Sonos and listen to a single Play 5 as well as a set of Play 1 and a 
> set of Play 3 to decide. Of course if you set up two Play 1 or Play 3 in the 
> bedroom you wouldn’t want to take one of them outside since each time you 
> would have to re-establish the stereo pairing which maybe a bit of a pain.
>  
> Just remember that Sonos is extremely flexible and while you may not be able 
> to buy all you would like all at once, you can just add to it over a few 
> years.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ron Pelletier
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Sonos
>  
> Hi you two Sonos Experts,
>  
> I have a good Yamaha sound system in my living room with 4 speakers  and 
> woofer. Since I am on a limited budget, my thinking is that I should first 
> get a Sonos Connect to get the sound into that system and then get a Sonos 
> speaker or two for my bedroom. One of these speakers, I guess, could easily 
> be brought on my patio on a nice day until I can afford an outdoors speaker.
>  
> What do you think of my reasoning and, please make suggestions if its is a 
> little off.  
>  
> Ron & Danvers
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Sonos
>  
> Hi Jonathan,
>  
> First of all, welcome to Sonos, I didn’t know you had bought into it, but it 
> definitely is awesome.
>  
> As for the Connect, I understand that I could get any wireless headset setup 
> and plug it into the RCA line-out or Optical out on the Connect. But 
> considering that most of the wireless headsets I would consider are between 
> $300 and $500 I really was waiting for a true Sonos headset. If Somebody who 
> wouldn’t normally need a Connect has to buy one just for that purpose then it 
> also becomes a pretty expensive headset solution.
> When I bought my first Sonos products in 2009 it was 3 Connect Amp which then 
> were called ZP120 and 2 Connect which were the ZP90 back then. They only had 
> those players then and actually a set of stand-alone bookshelf type speakers. 
> The Play 5 which started out as the S5 came I think in 2011 and I bought it 
> then. Anyhow, I am still holding out for a native Sonos headset as I am 
> convinced it will be coming at some point. My thought is that they do have to 
> release a new product sometime and now that they have 3 portable players, a 
> soundbar and Sub it must be something they consider especially considering 
> that I am not the only one asking for  it. I once talked to a Sonos customer 
> service guy and mentioned it and he said he gets people asking for it on a 
> pretty regular bases and you find stuff like “Dear Sonos, please make me 
> headphones! | iMore” when you Google around for  it.
>  
> What I really like about Sonos is the longevity of their products. While my 
> Zp120 units are now called Connect Amp and my ZP90 is now the Connect, they 
> still are essentially the same units even though mine are now 7 years old. 
> It’s nice to see a company that makes some good hardware which is then 
> improved over time with software updates. The only Sonos product which was a 
> bit of a flop was the 30-Pin dock which they sold back in the iPhone 4/4S 
> days. It was I think around $120 at the time and basically was a dock which 
> acted as a stand-alone player and it also had a headphone jack. I still have 
> mine but of course haven’t used it in many years since I don’t feel I want to 
> invest in a 30-Pin to Lightning adapter and if I really want my iPhone 
> connected I have a RCA to 3.5mm cable plugged into the Connect Amp in my 
> bedroom and I just plug it in there, but mostly I just use Airplay since I 
> have an Airport Express connected to one of my other Connect Amp units to add 
> Airplay to my Sonos system. That, by the way, would be one of my other very 
> few items of criticism, I think at least the new players that were releaed in 
> the last few years should have built-in Airplay compatibility and all 3 
> portable players, the Play 1, 3 and 5 should have a 3.5mm headphone jack.
>  
> OK, off my soapbox I step since I have to get ready for work *smile*.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jonathan Mosen
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 6:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sonos
>  
> While a headphone jack on some of the units might be nice, I'm not convinced 
> any new product is necessary, because Sonos already has one called the 
> Connect. You can easily plug headphones into this, and indeed I have a device 
> plugged into a connect that sends any audio from Sonos directly to my hearing 
> aids. You can set it up as a room of its own or group it with another. For 
> example, we have a Sonos PlayBar, sub, and two Play:1s in our living room for 
> 5.1 surround sound. When we're watching a movie, I send audio to a Sonos 
> connect as well so I get the sound of the movie straight into my hearing 
> aids. But it could easily be wireless or wired headphones plugged in there.
> Becoming a Sonos household has been the coolest tech we've adopted since 
> iPhone. I love this stuff.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
>  
> On 11/03/2016, at 7:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>  
> Hi Marie,
>  
> Yes, sadly Sonos at this point is all about listening out loud and all I can 
> say is to call Sonos or submit feedback via their website to let them know 
> they really need to look at designing a stand-alone headset which would act 
> as a separate Sonos Player. I’ve been waiting fore this for at least the last 
> 2 or 3 years and each year I hope they’ll announce such a product. Of course 
> there are many situations where one would want to listen privately with a 
> headset and considering how much of a focus there has been on headsets in the 
> last few years I don’t get it how Sonos isn’t jumping on that bandwagon. I 
> think there could be either one of two products or both:
> one would be high-quality stand-alone audio file quality headphones but of 
> course such a product would be very pricy considering one can easily spend 
> $500 to $1,000 or even more on true audio file quality wired headphones. I 
> think a product around $500 to $700 US from Sonos would be the right price 
> point and one where they could really make it sound awesome.
> The other product which I think should be a companion to the headphones would 
> be a small iPhone-size or slightly thicker headphone amp with rechargeable 
> battery, a quarter inch headphone jack and belt clip. This would be the 
> product that connects to the Sonos system and acts as a separate player and 
> it would allow users to plug in any headset or headphones they have from a 
> cheap $20 pair of earbuds to a pair of Sennheiser HD800S for $1,699 which is 
> probably about as good as it gets. A product like this should maybe cost $250 
> to $400 or $500 at most if they put in really good components and if Sonos 
> were to make only one product I hope it would be this one as it offers a lot 
> more flexibility with headsets users already own.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Marie
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Sonos
>  
> I was just reading the reviews of the Sonos Play 5 and there were complaints 
> that there was no output jack on this speaker? I was under the impressions 
> that it did have a headphone jack but wonder if it was removed in the newer 
> model. This is a real turn off for me. I guess I should have bought one 
> earlier.
> Marie
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