I ordered my play bar and sub from Summers directly. They have a 45 day return policy. Also, they threw in a Sonos bridge at no charge. This plugs in to an existing router so that you can set up your Sonos system on it's own network.
Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 11, 2016, at 3:14 PM, christopher hallsworth <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi > > Bose, who is now a manufacturer I really like, seems to have quite a generous > returns policy. Buy your Bose product, and if you're not happy within 30 days > you can request a no quibbles refund and they will even collect the returning > product at your disposal. >> On 11 Mar 2016, at 20:06, Terje Strømberg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Listen before you buy. Or be sure to have a return policy. This is true with >> all audio hifi gear. >> >> I heard rumors that Sonos was looking at developing an online backup >> solution of playlists made within the Sonos app. From for example Tidal, >> Spotify and apple music and hard drive into a single playlist in the Sonos >> app. A backup in «my account» in Sonos online. Have this happened yet? >> >> It is possible to use a play1, 3 or 5 as a backup if you don’t reset one of >> theese. Choose connect to excisting network after reset of a device. Did not >> get an answer about online backup from support. Therefore, i ask here. >> >> Take care >> >> 11. mars 2016 kl. 20:12 skrev Les Kriegler <[email protected]>: >> >> Well, I will let the experts answer most of your questions. I can tell you >> that the AppleTV will work with Sonos play bar. I was told to make sure that >> I use Dolby Digital for this to work. As far as speakers are concerned, my >> understanding is at the play bar contains nine speakers. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 11, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Ron Pelletier <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Sieghard, >>> >>> I did not read yet about the playbar. Can you give me an idea of the >>> difference in sound I would have against my high end Yamaha which, as you >>> well said, is not very accessible at all except for basic functions. >>> >>> For instance, could I plug in my CD player into the playbar? How large is >>> it? Does it include speakers. I have now moved to a smaller apartment and, >>> in time, I would like to modernize and go smaller. I have 2 large Rega >>> speakers, 2 medium size Mission speakers and a subwover and all that takes >>> a lot of space. I have to say that my set-top box is plugged into my sound >>> system so that the TV sounds very good. In time, I would also like to get >>> an Apple TV. Would it go into the Sonos Playbar? >>> >>> A lot to think about. My sound system is about 8 years old and still >>> working very well for now. Would it be a waste for now to get the Connect >>> and then use it later on as you are using yours? My bedroom is very >>> small so I’m wondering if the Play1 speakers would be enough. >>> I guess I’ll have to find a Sonos dealer in Montreal to see if I can go and >>> listen. >>> >>> Ron & Danvers >>> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Sieghard Weitzel >>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:59 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Sonos >>> >>> Hi Ron, >>> >>> What you describe will work fine. The question is how old your Yamaha >>> system is and your end goal. I bought a high-end Sony surround receiver in >>> 2009 which at the time was $1,500 and since I already had a Sonos Connect I >>> did exactly what you are planning to do. I had two front, a centre and two >>> rear in-ceiling speakers hooked up, but no Subwover. 3 years ago I ended up >>> caving in and I ordered a Playbar, Sonos Su and 2 Play 1 speakers as rear >>> speakers and I have never looked back. My living room gained more space >>> since my two front speakers are gone, my TV/stereo shelf doesn’t have a >>> huge receiver sitting on it and I am now using that Connect player at my >>> store and there is a lot less cable. Also, there is of course the fact that >>> Sonos is fully accessible whereas my Sony receiver was useable in terms of >>> switching inputs and basic functions, but a lot of advanced functionality >>> was not accessible. >>> >>> If you aren’t planning to get rid of your Yamaha receiver and speakers I’d >>> say go for the Connect, but if it’s an older system you may consider buying >>> a Playbar instead of a Connect and later add a Sub and two Play 1 as >>> surround. >>> >>> Using a Play 3 or Play 5 in the bedroom is of course a great idea, here you >>> really have to decide how much you can and want to spend. It used to be >>> that the Play 1, 3 and 5 were $199, $299 and $399 US, but now the new Play >>> 5 jumped up to $499 so you could buy a set of Play 1 and put them into >>> stereo mode for less than a single Play 5. You should maybe go to a >>> reseller that sells Sonos and listen to a single Play 5 as well as a set of >>> Play 1 and a set of Play 3 to decide. Of course if you set up two Play 1 or >>> Play 3 in the bedroom you wouldn’t want to take one of them outside since >>> each time you would have to re-establish the stereo pairing which maybe a >>> bit of a pain. >>> >>> Just remember that Sonos is extremely flexible and while you may not be >>> able to buy all you would like all at once, you can just add to it over a >>> few years. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Ron Pelletier >>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:16 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Sonos >>> >>> Hi you two Sonos Experts, >>> >>> I have a good Yamaha sound system in my living room with 4 speakers and >>> woofer. Since I am on a limited budget, my thinking is that I should first >>> get a Sonos Connect to get the sound into that system and then get a Sonos >>> speaker or two for my bedroom. One of these speakers, I guess, could easily >>> be brought on my patio on a nice day until I can afford an outdoors speaker. >>> >>> What do you think of my reasoning and, please make suggestions if its is a >>> little off. >>> >>> Ron & Danvers >>> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Sieghard Weitzel >>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:46 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Sonos >>> >>> Hi Jonathan, >>> >>> First of all, welcome to Sonos, I didn’t know you had bought into it, but >>> it definitely is awesome. >>> >>> As for the Connect, I understand that I could get any wireless headset >>> setup and plug it into the RCA line-out or Optical out on the Connect. But >>> considering that most of the wireless headsets I would consider are between >>> $300 and $500 I really was waiting for a true Sonos headset. If Somebody >>> who wouldn’t normally need a Connect has to buy one just for that purpose >>> then it also becomes a pretty expensive headset solution. >>> When I bought my first Sonos products in 2009 it was 3 Connect Amp which >>> then were called ZP120 and 2 Connect which were the ZP90 back then. They >>> only had those players then and actually a set of stand-alone bookshelf >>> type speakers. The Play 5 which started out as the S5 came I think in 2011 >>> and I bought it then. Anyhow, I am still holding out for a native Sonos >>> headset as I am convinced it will be coming at some point. My thought is >>> that they do have to release a new product sometime and now that they have >>> 3 portable players, a soundbar and Sub it must be something they consider >>> especially considering that I am not the only one asking for it. I once >>> talked to a Sonos customer service guy and mentioned it and he said he gets >>> people asking for it on a pretty regular bases and you find stuff like >>> “Dear Sonos, please make me headphones! | iMore” when you Google around for >>> it. >>> >>> What I really like about Sonos is the longevity of their products. While my >>> Zp120 units are now called Connect Amp and my ZP90 is now the Connect, they >>> still are essentially the same units even though mine are now 7 years old. >>> It’s nice to see a company that makes some good hardware which is then >>> improved over time with software updates. The only Sonos product which was >>> a bit of a flop was the 30-Pin dock which they sold back in the iPhone 4/4S >>> days. It was I think around $120 at the time and basically was a dock which >>> acted as a stand-alone player and it also had a headphone jack. I still >>> have mine but of course haven’t used it in many years since I don’t feel I >>> want to invest in a 30-Pin to Lightning adapter and if I really want my >>> iPhone connected I have a RCA to 3.5mm cable plugged into the Connect Amp >>> in my bedroom and I just plug it in there, but mostly I just use Airplay >>> since I have an Airport Express connected to one of my other Connect Amp >>> units to add Airplay to my Sonos system. That, by the way, would be one of >>> my other very few items of criticism, I think at least the new players that >>> were releaed in the last few years should have built-in Airplay >>> compatibility and all 3 portable players, the Play 1, 3 and 5 should have a >>> 3.5mm headphone jack. >>> >>> OK, off my soapbox I step since I have to get ready for work *smile*. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Jonathan Mosen >>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 6:37 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Sonos >>> >>> While a headphone jack on some of the units might be nice, I'm not >>> convinced any new product is necessary, because Sonos already has one >>> called the Connect. You can easily plug headphones into this, and indeed I >>> have a device plugged into a connect that sends any audio from Sonos >>> directly to my hearing aids. You can set it up as a room of its own or >>> group it with another. For example, we have a Sonos PlayBar, sub, and two >>> Play:1s in our living room for 5.1 surround sound. When we're watching a >>> movie, I send audio to a Sonos connect as well so I get the sound of the >>> movie straight into my hearing aids. But it could easily be wireless or >>> wired headphones plugged in there. >>> Becoming a Sonos household has been the coolest tech we've adopted since >>> iPhone. I love this stuff. >>> Jonathan Mosen >>> Mosen Consulting >>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>> http://Mosen.org >>> >>> On 11/03/2016, at 7:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Marie, >>> >>> Yes, sadly Sonos at this point is all about listening out loud and all I >>> can say is to call Sonos or submit feedback via their website to let them >>> know they really need to look at designing a stand-alone headset which >>> would act as a separate Sonos Player. I’ve been waiting fore this for at >>> least the last 2 or 3 years and each year I hope they’ll announce such a >>> product. Of course there are many situations where one would want to listen >>> privately with a headset and considering how much of a focus there has been >>> on headsets in the last few years I don’t get it how Sonos isn’t jumping on >>> that bandwagon. I think there could be either one of two products or both: >>> one would be high-quality stand-alone audio file quality headphones but of >>> course such a product would be very pricy considering one can easily spend >>> $500 to $1,000 or even more on true audio file quality wired headphones. I >>> think a product around $500 to $700 US from Sonos would be the right price >>> point and one where they could really make it sound awesome. >>> The other product which I think should be a companion to the headphones >>> would be a small iPhone-size or slightly thicker headphone amp with >>> rechargeable battery, a quarter inch headphone jack and belt clip. This >>> would be the product that connects to the Sonos system and acts as a >>> separate player and it would allow users to plug in any headset or >>> headphones they have from a cheap $20 pair of earbuds to a pair of >>> Sennheiser HD800S for $1,699 which is probably about as good as it gets. A >>> product like this should maybe cost $250 to $400 or $500 at most if they >>> put in really good components and if Sonos were to make only one product I >>> hope it would be this one as it offers a lot more flexibility with headsets >>> users already own. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Marie >>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:50 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Sonos >>> >>> I was just reading the reviews of the Sonos Play 5 and there were >>> complaints that there was no output jack on this speaker? I was under the >>> impressions that it did have a headphone jack but wonder if it was removed >>> in the newer model. This is a real turn off for me. 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