Ron,
It is hard to say if you would find it sounds as good. Playbars in my opinion do sound differently than a set of good speakers connected to a good amplifier and sitting 8 feet apart. Having a Sonos Playbar with Sub and rear surrounds does sound great, just a Playbar by itself definitely won’t give you as good of a soundstage and probably not as good as a base. For me having less clutter and less cables still with very good sound for about $2,000 Canadian was worth it since I also have my 20-year old, but still very high-end system with Sonic Frontiers tube amp and digital-analogue converter, custom-built speakers and subwovers in a separate room in the basement so if I really want to listen to pure music I go there. But even there the source of the music is a $400 Sonos Connect and no longer the $2,500 Sonic Frontiers CD Transport. I think especially in a smaller apartment a Sonos Playbar/Sub/Play 1 surround setup would sound more than good, but the only one who can decide this is yourself. As for hooking up a CD player to the Playbar that is not directly possible or maybe I should say it is possible if your CD player has an optical output and you don’t mind unplugging the TV and plugging in the CD Player. The Playbar has a single optical input and is designed to be hooked up to a TV and of course most TV’s have multiple HDMI, optical and analogue inputs, but that also means your TV would have to be on if your CD player was connected via the TV. Having said that, I haven’t use a CD player in 6 or 7 years since once I got my Sonos system I ripped all my CD’s to a network attached hard drive in lossless FLAC format. The whole point of Sonos is that you access your music digitally from your computer’s library or of course you access all the online content from Tune In, iHeart (free) or tons of other paid services like Spotify, Deezer, Tidal, Apple Music, Google Music and many more. As far as I am concerned the days of hooking up all these sources like CD Player, a turn table, maybe some sort of digital music player and so on are past. I probably haven’t bought a CD in years because nowadays if I really want to buy music I buy it on iTunes but lately I’m rarely even doing that because I have an Apple Music subscription so I can access anything iTunes has anytime I want. The Playbar is approx. 37 inches long, maybe 8 inches tall and 3 inches thick. As Les pointed out, it has 9 speakers with a couple firing off to the sides, others are firing up and so on. You can read the exact configuration with respect to how many are tweeters, how many are mid-range drivers etc. on the Sonos website. The Playbar can sit flat or it can be mounted under the TV so the approx. 8 inches are the height, the 37 inches always is of course the left to right and the 3 inches is how thick it is front to back if it is mounted under the TV. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Pelletier Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sonos Hi Sieghard, I did not read yet about the playbar. Can you give me an idea of the difference in sound I would have against my high end Yamaha which, as you well said, is not very accessible at all except for basic functions. For instance, could I plug in my CD player into the playbar? How large is it? Does it include speakers. I have now moved to a smaller apartment and, in time, I would like to modernize and go smaller. I have 2 large Rega speakers, 2 medium size Mission speakers and a subwover and all that takes a lot of space. I have to say that my set-top box is plugged into my sound system so that the TV sounds very good. In time, I would also like to get an Apple TV. Would it go into the Sonos Playbar? A lot to think about. My sound system is about 8 years old and still working very well for now. Would it be a waste for now to get the Connect and then use it later on as you are using yours? My bedroom is very small so I’m wondering if the Play1 speakers would be enough. I guess I’ll have to find a Sonos dealer in Montreal to see if I can go and listen. Ron & Danvers From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sonos Hi Ron, What you describe will work fine. The question is how old your Yamaha system is and your end goal. I bought a high-end Sony surround receiver in 2009 which at the time was $1,500 and since I already had a Sonos Connect I did exactly what you are planning to do. I had two front, a centre and two rear in-ceiling speakers hooked up, but no Subwover. 3 years ago I ended up caving in and I ordered a Playbar, Sonos Su and 2 Play 1 speakers as rear speakers and I have never looked back. My living room gained more space since my two front speakers are gone, my TV/stereo shelf doesn’t have a huge receiver sitting on it and I am now using that Connect player at my store and there is a lot less cable. Also, there is of course the fact that Sonos is fully accessible whereas my Sony receiver was useable in terms of switching inputs and basic functions, but a lot of advanced functionality was not accessible. If you aren’t planning to get rid of your Yamaha receiver and speakers I’d say go for the Connect, but if it’s an older system you may consider buying a Playbar instead of a Connect and later add a Sub and two Play 1 as surround. Using a Play 3 or Play 5 in the bedroom is of course a great idea, here you really have to decide how much you can and want to spend. It used to be that the Play 1, 3 and 5 were $199, $299 and $399 US, but now the new Play 5 jumped up to $499 so you could buy a set of Play 1 and put them into stereo mode for less than a single Play 5. You should maybe go to a reseller that sells Sonos and listen to a single Play 5 as well as a set of Play 1 and a set of Play 3 to decide. Of course if you set up two Play 1 or Play 3 in the bedroom you wouldn’t want to take one of them outside since each time you would have to re-establish the stereo pairing which maybe a bit of a pain. Just remember that Sonos is extremely flexible and while you may not be able to buy all you would like all at once, you can just add to it over a few years. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Pelletier Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Sonos Hi you two Sonos Experts, I have a good Yamaha sound system in my living room with 4 speakers and woofer. Since I am on a limited budget, my thinking is that I should first get a Sonos Connect to get the sound into that system and then get a Sonos speaker or two for my bedroom. One of these speakers, I guess, could easily be brought on my patio on a nice day until I can afford an outdoors speaker. What do you think of my reasoning and, please make suggestions if its is a little off. Ron & Danvers From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:46 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Sonos Hi Jonathan, First of all, welcome to Sonos, I didn’t know you had bought into it, but it definitely is awesome. As for the Connect, I understand that I could get any wireless headset setup and plug it into the RCA line-out or Optical out on the Connect. But considering that most of the wireless headsets I would consider are between $300 and $500 I really was waiting for a true Sonos headset. If Somebody who wouldn’t normally need a Connect has to buy one just for that purpose then it also becomes a pretty expensive headset solution. When I bought my first Sonos products in 2009 it was 3 Connect Amp which then were called ZP120 and 2 Connect which were the ZP90 back then. They only had those players then and actually a set of stand-alone bookshelf type speakers. The Play 5 which started out as the S5 came I think in 2011 and I bought it then. Anyhow, I am still holding out for a native Sonos headset as I am convinced it will be coming at some point. My thought is that they do have to release a new product sometime and now that they have 3 portable players, a soundbar and Sub it must be something they consider especially considering that I am not the only one asking for it. I once talked to a Sonos customer service guy and mentioned it and he said he gets people asking for it on a pretty regular bases and you find stuff like “ <http://www.imore.com/dear-sonos-please-make-me-sonos-headphones> Dear Sonos, please make me headphones! | iMore” when you Google around for it. What I really like about Sonos is the longevity of their products. While my Zp120 units are now called Connect Amp and my ZP90 is now the Connect, they still are essentially the same units even though mine are now 7 years old. It’s nice to see a company that makes some good hardware which is then improved over time with software updates. The only Sonos product which was a bit of a flop was the 30-Pin dock which they sold back in the iPhone 4/4S days. It was I think around $120 at the time and basically was a dock which acted as a stand-alone player and it also had a headphone jack. I still have mine but of course haven’t used it in many years since I don’t feel I want to invest in a 30-Pin to Lightning adapter and if I really want my iPhone connected I have a RCA to 3.5mm cable plugged into the Connect Amp in my bedroom and I just plug it in there, but mostly I just use Airplay since I have an Airport Express connected to one of my other Connect Amp units to add Airplay to my Sonos system. That, by the way, would be one of my other very few items of criticism, I think at least the new players that were releaed in the last few years should have built-in Airplay compatibility and all 3 portable players, the Play 1, 3 and 5 should have a 3.5mm headphone jack. OK, off my soapbox I step since I have to get ready for work *smile*. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 6:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Sonos While a headphone jack on some of the units might be nice, I'm not convinced any new product is necessary, because Sonos already has one called the Connect. You can easily plug headphones into this, and indeed I have a device plugged into a connect that sends any audio from Sonos directly to my hearing aids. You can set it up as a room of its own or group it with another. For example, we have a Sonos PlayBar, sub, and two Play:1s in our living room for 5.1 surround sound. When we're watching a movie, I send audio to a Sonos connect as well so I get the sound of the movie straight into my hearing aids. But it could easily be wireless or wired headphones plugged in there. Becoming a Sonos household has been the coolest tech we've adopted since iPhone. I love this stuff. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 11/03/2016, at 7:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: Hi Marie, Yes, sadly Sonos at this point is all about listening out loud and all I can say is to call Sonos or submit feedback via their website to let them know they really need to look at designing a stand-alone headset which would act as a separate Sonos Player. I’ve been waiting fore this for at least the last 2 or 3 years and each year I hope they’ll announce such a product. Of course there are many situations where one would want to listen privately with a headset and considering how much of a focus there has been on headsets in the last few years I don’t get it how Sonos isn’t jumping on that bandwagon. I think there could be either one of two products or both: one would be high-quality stand-alone audio file quality headphones but of course such a product would be very pricy considering one can easily spend $500 to $1,000 or even more on true audio file quality wired headphones. I think a product around $500 to $700 US from Sonos would be the right price point and one where they could really make it sound awesome. The other product which I think should be a companion to the headphones would be a small iPhone-size or slightly thicker headphone amp with rechargeable battery, a quarter inch headphone jack and belt clip. This would be the product that connects to the Sonos system and acts as a separate player and it would allow users to plug in any headset or headphones they have from a cheap $20 pair of earbuds to a pair of Sennheiser HD800S for $1,699 which is probably about as good as it gets. A product like this should maybe cost $250 to $400 or $500 at most if they put in really good components and if Sonos were to make only one product I hope it would be this one as it offers a lot more flexibility with headsets users already own. Regards, Sieghard From: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com [ <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:50 AM To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Sonos I was just reading the reviews of the Sonos Play 5 and there were complaints that there was no output jack on this speaker? 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