Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

Raul A. Gallegos Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:25:47 -0700

Hello Scott. Completely agreed. AT&T nor any other provider should havethe right to tell you what programs, protocols, ETC you can use on yourdata plan. After all, data is data. Sure, they could try to justify itby saying that FT uses more than other stuff, but then, why allow Skype?It doesn't make sense and just looks like another ploy to make yet moremoney. They probably would filter out Skype if they figured that a lotof people knew about it. However to the grandma who just got an iPhonefor her 80th birthday, she will probably see FT first instead of Skype.I would venture that this is the reason AT&T targeted FT instead of Skype.


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On 8/30/2012 12:48 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

Raul, true, but it is the principle of the matter. However, again you are 
correct that Skype is a viable cross-platform option.

On Aug 30, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Raul A. Gallegos <r...@raulgallegos.com> wrote:

Hi, considering that Facetime isn't cross platform, I just use Skype. Wtih 
Skype I can use it on wi-fi or cell network. I can talk to users on their 
computers, iPhones, iPods, Androids, or Linux machines. I follow the podcasts 
and tweets from Life Hacker and they also recommend Skype over FaceTime for 
those same reasons.

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On 8/30/2012 10:24 AM, Damashe Thomas wrote:

I would like to point out that the only thing verizon does is forces you
to give up unlimited data if you choos to use an upgrade. They still off
the 2GB and 5GB data lans for $30 and $50 respectively. So you could go
with one of those if you weren't interested in the shared data package.
It is interesting that at&t may adopt this strategy after the release of
the new iPhone. Currentl as a verizon customer with unlimited data, I am
slightly envious that at&t customers can upgrade without giving up
unlimited data with the only restriction being that you can't use
facetime over 3G when that becomes available.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Paul" <newsandtraf...@aol.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

Here's part of the issue going forward though. Currently AT&T doesn't
force you to choose one of their shared data plans. However my
understanding from a area manager of AT&T's is that once the iPhone 5
comes out. They're going to adopt the same model VZ has. Meaning that
if you want the upgrade price on a device. They're going to force you
to switch in to 1 of these shared data plans. So, unless you wanta
either pay full price for your devices or buy older 1's off of Ebay,
etc. Now, I'm not sure about any of you. However, I don't have the
money to pay full price for a new iPhone 5 when it comes out. So,
perhaps none  of us will have much of a choice going forward. Or,
we'll keep using older devices. These are questions we'll have to ask
ourselves. We'll also have to wait & see if they really adopt this
model going henceforth.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell" <scottn3...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 05:31
Subject: Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.


Raul,

Where things get incredibly silly is as you increase your data from
perhaps 4Gb to 6Gb the base cost goes down but the per phone charge
goes up. So, the only way these data plans make sense is for people
with lots of devices. AT&T really did not take into account the
families with two or three phones. The $70 for unlimited text and
voice is not to bad I suppose, although the cost for text is so out of
line with reality, but hey it is a cash-cow for carriers. :)

On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos <r...@raulgallegos.com>
wrote:

Hi, basically here's how they work. You get unlimited voice calls and
texts. You pay for a base plan, which doesn't include any phones, but
then you pay for each phone you add. As an example, if you go with a
4gb plan with 3 phones, you would pay $70 for the plan itself and $40
per phone. So, do the math. 70 + 120 is 190 plus tax. Now if you take
one of their older plans like the 700 minute shared minute plan with
unlimited text and mobile to any mobile and 3 phones, the cost is 60
for the plan, plus 30 for the texting, plus roughly 10 per each
phone, plus the data on those phones. So, 60 plus 30 plus 30 for 3
phones makes 120. Now add data. Let's say 30 per phone for 3gb each.
that's an extra 90 making it 210. So maybe going with the 4gb plan
for those same 3 phones will save you 20. However if you have an
older plan like the one paying 15 or 20 per month on data plans, then
switching to the new data shared plan costs more.

Hope this helps.

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On 8/26/2012 8:52 PM, Vicky Collins wrote:

I just went to the AT&T site, and looks like they now have the personal
hotspot feature free with their new shared data plans as well.  I have
it under one of their older plans, and so am paying extra for it.
Although, grin, perhaps I'm not really paying any more in the long run,
but I just couldn't figure that out for sure.  I tried to wade through
the AT&T site to understand their shared data information, but finally
just got kind of frustrated and quit looking for right now.

----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Barry <krba...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:42:51 -0400
Subject: RE: iPhone as personal hotspot.

In theory yes; however I have the old plan and tethering works.
I don't use it as I have zero  need to do it.
I'll never sign up for the  new rippoff so-called shared data plans.

At 08:05 PM 8/26/2012, you wrote:
Right if you have vzw's new plan it is included however if you are on
one of
the old plans it is still an add on feature.


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Of CD
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:56 PM
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Subject: RE: iPhone as personal hotspot.

I don't know.  Verizon does it with their shared plan.  It's a new
thing.

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Of Jenifer
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

Does at&t?
On Aug 26, 2012, at 6:34 PM, "CD" <cd5...@gmail.com> wrote:

Verizon has tethering free but I haven't figured out how to do it
either.


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jenifer
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:28 PM
To: The iPhone List
Subject: iPhone as personal hotspot.

Hi all.
How would I set my iPhone 4S as a personal wy-fy hotspot that I can
connect my Mack to?  I have wy-fy at home but not anywhere else. Any
suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Jenifer

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