Hi,

Sighted users simply slide their finger from left to right to change the volume.
As far as the 4-finger swipe gesture, the AppleVis podcast is incorrect. I live 
with a sighted roommate, and we both can confirm that gesture is only available 
when VoiceOver is running.

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 24, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Flor Lynch <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> So, here's something I've wanted to ask for quite a while. What do non-rotor 
> users do to, say, adjust the value on a volume button (or sometimes a pop-up 
> button), that requires rotor gestures from us?
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 12:18 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Mega discovery in 9.3
> 
> No, I'm pretty sure the roter is a VoiceOver feature, and I believe it's
> only documented in the VoiceOver section of the manual. I don't think,
> when you perform the roter jesture, that anything on the screen changes,
> so there'd be nothing for a non-VoiceOver user to interact with at that
> point.
> 
>> On 24/03/16 06:00, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone wrote:
>> I may be wrong about this, but… Do  non voice-over users have a rotor?
>> 
>> Sandy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 24 Mar 2016, at 00:08, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I think we have another feature, of using the three finger quadruple
>>> tap when capturing text. On some pages there's just no other way to
>>> get what you want ...
>>> 
>>> In case anyone hasn't discovered this, it's useful, for example, when
>>> you have to enter a code. Once you hear just the code you want, you
>>> can then do this gesture and copy it into pasteboard (which I assume
>>> is the same as the clipboard) and paste it where required.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps I am wrong and sighted people can do this, but perhaps not so
>>> easily as we can.
>>> 
>>> No doubt, someone will enlighten me!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Carol P
>>> 
>>>> On 23/03/2016 21:51, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>>> Hi. I can confirm that this is not available to people who do not use
>>>> voiceover. So yes, people who use voiceover have access to a feature
>>>> that mainstream users don't.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Christina C.
>>>> <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I haven’t updated yet to try the four finger swipe but I heard this
>>>>> is also available to non voice Over users. I can’t find that
>>>>> anywhere on the internet. I know lots of people who would love this
>>>>> feature on their iPhone who does not use voice over. I’d be
>>>>> surprised to know that voice Over users have a new cool feature that
>>>>> the mainstream does not have.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Christina
>>>>>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is new and 9.3.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 1:59 PM, Robin Christopherson
>>>>>> <[email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dear listers
>>>>>>> You’re probably all going to come back and tell me this has been
>>>>>>> in iOS forever but I’ve just discovered that, on my 6S at least,
>>>>>>> swiping left or right with four fingers switches between running
>>>>>>> apps. I know this has worked on an iPad Air 2 for a while but
>>>>>>> wasn’t aware it was available on the phone. Enjoy!
>>>>>>> Thanks, Robin
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