Wow, I don't understand how a new problem can be created with something that 
was working so perfectly well before. I'm even hesitant to do the latest latest 
update because I just don't trust the stuff.

Deidre


> On Apr 5, 2016, at 9:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Deidre,
> 
> If I want to move something up that is by default at the bottom or near the 
> bottom I shouldn't have to move 6 other things down in order to accomplish 
> this. I hadn't really noticed a problem before either and thought maybe the 
> people who are having problems aren't doing clean gestures, but I just tried 
> moving a few things around and there definitely seems to be a bug as I can 
> reproduce what Ari has been describing.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Deidre Muccio
> Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 1:56 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Reorganizing the rotor is driving me absolutely insane!
> 
> Well let's see if you had been trying to move something up why don't you try 
> moving the things you don't want first down. I'm sorry if you've already 
> tried this and this is a little redundant.
> 
> Deidre
> 
> 
>> On Apr 4, 2016, at 12:11 PM, rajmund <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> When I tried moving braille screen input below words on the 5s, it would 
>> always go right at the top.  After about 3 items, speech refuses, and I 
>> repeat, refuses, to tell you where the earth you are.
>> 
>> Sent from a BrailleNote
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Devin Prater <[email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date sent: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 08:05:31 -0500
>> Subject: Re: Reorganizing the rotor is driving me absolutely insane!
>> 
>> Yes, this happened to me too when I was putting braille screen input at the 
>> top.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 4, 2016, at 8:02 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> 
>> Reorganizing the items isn't the problem.  I listen very carefully, and stop 
>> when the item I'm moving is where I want it.  The trouble starts when things 
>> start randomly moving around on me, particularly an icon that I just moved a 
>> few seconds ago.  Or something I moved a little bit ago will suddenly shift 
>> position, or things will randomly become unselected.  I know how to organize 
>> the rotor, and things used to work beautifully.  I haven't had to do this 
>> from scratch in a very long time, so "i don't know when things started going 
>> absolutely haywire like this, but it's frustrating me beyond belief! "apple 
>> "accessibility is getting a call today.  They really need to know about this 
>> issue.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> "ari
>> 
>> On Apr 4, 2016, at 5:49 AM, deidre muccio <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't seem to have any trouble.  Under the name of each item selected is a 
>> button to change sort order.  If you tap on it, it will tell you what to do 
>> such as hold on and move finger.  So you would move up or down and it should 
>> tell you what you are crossing over.  Pay attention to what order things are 
>> already in on the rotor and you will know when to let up.  It's just like 
>> moving apps only easier.
>> You could also unselect everything then select them one at a time in the 
>> order you want them.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf Of Jewel
>> Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 7:07 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Reorganizing the rotor is driving me absolutely insane!
>> 
>> Ari!  I do hope that you get an answer because I am having a similar 
>> problem:  not all the time, but enough to be a real annoyance.
>> I have tried just moving the rotor to, sort of halfway between one 
>> option and the next, and that seems to work for a while, but it would be 
>> much better if it worked all the time.
>> 
>>   Jewel
>> 
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: <[email protected]
>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 6:11 AM
>> To: "VIPhone Email List" <[email protected]
>> Subject: Reorganizing the rotor is driving me absolutely insane!
>> 
>> As you all probably know by now, I just got a new iPhone 6S.  I had to 
>> reset my settings to their defaults on my 4S to be able to back it up 
>> to my computer, so while I have all my apps and whatnot, I'm having to 
>> reset all my settings.  Nothing is driving me more nuts than getting 
>> the rotor exactly the way I want it.  Things jump around after I move 
>> them' or go to the top after moving up for a bit, or to the bottop if 
>> I'm moving them down.  This is really, really annoying! "i wish you 
>> could just have move up/down buttons, instead of this dragging to reorder 
>> stuff.  It's never really been a problem until now, though.  Am I just going 
>> nuts, or have others experienced this problem with the rotor? Any 
>> suggestions?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
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