Hi Cheryl,

If all you do is use that XP machine for iTunes and a few other things it's 
fine. If, however, you use it for spending time online, possibly buying items 
online or, even worse, doing things like online banking and so on you really 
putting yourself at risk. There have been no security updates for XP in some 
time and people who use it for things where security is a concern are putting 
themselves at a pretty big risk. Just saying.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Cheryl LeFurgey
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 12:52 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Weird itunes mystery.

Alan,
Yeah, it is super weird that one device works while the other doesn't.
Also, yay, someone else who thinks the way I do about xp. It suits my needs, 
I'll upgrade when my desktop dies.
All I use itunes for is putting music on my devices, so because one of my 
devices works I can see no real reason to upgrade. If neither device synced 
that'd be different.
Thanks for the good luck, I hope I can get this working, ugh.

On 5/21/16, Alan Lemly <[email protected]> wrote:
> Cheryl,
>
> I agree with you one hundred percent and I still use my Windows XP box 
> to run older programs that I had no interest in acquiring versions 
> compatible with Windows 7. I've always believed that you should run 
> the operating system that you know and that runs the programs you need 
> to get your work done. Windows XP still does an awful lot of that for me.
>
> That's great that your iPhone running iOS 9.x is still working with 
> iTunes
> 11.4 but it is a bit curious based on what I've also read. Your iPod 
> is acting more as I would expect but the inconsistency of the two 
> devices is baffling.
>
> Good luck managing the inconsistency and I'll keep my fingers crossed 
> that your iPhone and iTunes keep on working.
>
> Alan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Cheryl LeFurgey
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:39 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Weird itunes mystery.
>
> Alan,
>
> Everything I've googled does support the idea that ITunes 12.x is 
> required, that's why the fact that my phone will sync is such a 
> mystery. Not that i'm complaining, of course!
> I can connect my phone, it pops up in my sources list, and I can add 
> music to it, which is all i use itunes for.
> Yeah, if I do call, the people at apple will probably hear the words 
> windows xp and start laughing. Well no, but everyone else says xp is 
> outdated, not secure, bla bla bla. It works just fine here, I have no 
> issues, I'll update when I'm good and ready.
> Hopefully I can get this resolved, it's kind of annoying to have an 
> ipod and not be able to play music on it. I mean sure I could copy my 
> library to dropbox and use that app to play music, but that kind of 
> defeats the purpose, IMO.
>
> On 5/20/16, Alan Lemly <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Cheryl,
>>
>> I wish I had an answer for you but I was under the impression that 
>> those running iOS 9.x had to run iTunes 12.x to get correct iTunes 
>> behavior with their iDevices for things like syncing and backing up.
>> Since you were getting your iTunes 11.4 to sync okay before this 
>> problem arose, I guess something about my information was incorrect. 
>> I too have a desktop system running Windows XP but I'm transitioning 
>> to another desktop system running Windows 7 which is the one on which 
>> I run iTunes. I ran iTunes 11.4 on my Windows 7 system until day 
>> before yesterday when I upgraded it to version
>> 12.4 since I was finally ready to upgrade to iOS 9.x and believed 
>> iTunes 12.x was required to get correct functionality between iTunes 
>> and a device running iOS 9.x.
>>
>> As Richard suggested, maybe Apple Accessibility will be able to help 
>> but I suspect they're going to start that upgrade your iTunes 
>> rallying cry when they learn you're running iTunes 11.4.
>>
>> I hope you're able to resolve your issue.
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:08 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Weird itunes mystery.
>>
>> Not to sound like a broken record, but have you called Apple 
>> Accessibility?
>> 877-204-3930?
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>  The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can 
>> be pretty sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues.
>> Elizabeth Taylor (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>>
>>> On May 20, 2016, at 7:11 AM, Cheryl LeFurgey <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, everyone.
>>> First, before I get into what's going on, let me say that i'm using 
>>> an ipod touch fifth gen, and that my computer is running windows xp 
>>> and Itunes 11.4.
>>> Yes, I know, my OS is ancient, please don't tell me that.
>>> Now, on to the mystery.
>>> About a month ago, I downloaded an AudioBoom update, didn't like it, 
>>> and tried to go back to the previous version.
>>> Unfortunately, I didn't have the right version on my computer, so I 
>>> restored my ipod from an icloud backup in order to get my previous 
>>> app back.
>>> The restore worked, eventually. The first few times it kept saying 
>>> it couldn't copy some of my apps because they weren't available, but 
>>> I was eventually able to complete a restore.
>>> I import all of my music from cds, using itunes to sync it to my ipod.
>>> Because of the restore, my music wasn't coppied over.
>>> So I tried to sync my ipod to get my music back, only to be told 
>>> that my ipod couldn't be used because it required a newer version of 
>>> itunes.
>>> Now, for the mystery. My iphone 5, which is running the exact same 
>>> version of IOS as my ipod (when this started it was 9.3.1, and still 
>>> happens with 9.3.2), will sync just fine.
>>> i've tried everything I can think of to get this working, with no 
>>> success. I even downloaded the IPSW file for IOS9.3.1, put my ipod 
>>> into recovery mode and restored with that, no luck.
>>> Now, there is a newer version of itunes that'll work on xp, but I 
>>> don't like itunes 12, and because my phone will still sync fine, see 
>>> no real reason to update.
>>> Has anyone had this kind of thing happen to them? If so, what can I 
>>> do to get my music back onto my ipod? I've even tried various wifi 
>>> file sharing apps, but they all just keep the files inside 
>>> themselves, since apple won't allow us to copy music to the ipod's 
>>> internal library without itunes.
>>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions, this is super frustrating.
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