Good idea about the mute switch and the vibrate. I should've thought of that. 
By the next time I get an iPhone  I probably will forget again.
Mary


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> On Oct 3, 2016, at 10:38 PM, rajmund <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary, I tend to flick the mute switch, and once it vibrates, I triple 
> click.  I guess that's when you had to.
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mary Otten <[email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Date sent: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 19:45:00 -0700
> Subject: Re: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help
> 
> Hi Rajmund,
> I guess my problem was, I didn't know quite when to do the triple click home. 
>  The first thing that came up was that business with the rotating languages, 
> where you have to pick the one you want to use.  I guess I was expecting some 
> notification about turning on voiceover with triple click home.  There wasn't 
> one of those, at least if there was, my husband didn't see it.  So I didn't 
> actually click triple click home.  Everything turned out OK in the end.
> Mary
> 
> 
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> 
> On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:29 PM, rajmund <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary, did triple clicking the home button didn't work?
> 
> Sent from a BrailleNote
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mary Otten <[email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Date sent: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 18:03:22 -0700
> Subject: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help
> 
> Hi all,
> I recently got my new iPhone 7 Plus.  I decided to start out from scratch, 
> hoping that maybe some of the problems I have been having would go away.  So 
> I didn't just plug it into my Mac and go right away from my encrypted backup. 
>  I started from scratch.  And there was nothing at all telling me about 
> voiceover or letting me turn it on or anything.  If my sighted husband had 
> not been there, I would have been out of luck.  It's been a while since I've 
> tried setting up a device from scratch.  But I thought Apple had a way that 
> would let you turn voiceover on right at the beginning of the process.  This 
> was missing.  What didn't I do that I should've done? It turned out I went 
> ahead and ended up doing my encrypted backup restoration, since the set up 
> from scratch didn't fix any of the problems I had been having and still have. 
>  But I was really surprised that there wasn't anything enabling me to start 
> voice over from the get-go.
> Mary
> 
> 
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