Why you cannot create manual schedules, the auto scheduling feature makes it 
possible for the nest to learn your preferences. I think that makes a big 
difference. I don't know what accessibility was like before, I find it to be 
reasonably good for my needs.

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> On Nov 29, 2016, at 3:20 PM, Andy Baracco <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Has accessibility improved?
> Andy
>  
> From: Les Kriegler
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 6:27 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Smart thermostats
> Has he heard,
> 
> Well, I just learned that the nest thermostat is on sale at Best Buy for 
> $199. If I had bought it at that price and got a $75 rebate, the cost 
> would've come down to $125. Or thereabouts. In any event. That's not bad when 
> you consider that $125 for thermostat like the nest is really good price. So 
> if anybody's in the market, this would probably be a good week to check on 
> this.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 27, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Les,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> That depends entirely on the programs your particular hydro companies are 
>> running. Here in Canada they do offer rebates on some stuff, but the problem 
>> is that I already own a smart thermostat so even if they offered a rebate 
>> for the upgrade from a regular thermostat to a smart thermostat I wouldn’t 
>> qualify. I just went through this with lights. I had applied for a rebate 
>> for upgrading all the old florescent tube fixtures at my retail store to LED 
>> fixtures and thought I also ask the company that put together the quote to 
>> include upgrading about 80 light bulbs. After an on-sight inspection the 
>> hydro company said that because I had already changed all my old 75 Watt 
>> halogen spotlights to the compact florescent versions I would not qualify 
>> for upgrading these to LED. Both compact florescent and LED are considered 
>> energy saving even though the compact florescent bulbs use I think 13 or 15 
>> Watts and the equivalent LED version only uses 9 Watts, still 40% less over 
>> 13 Watts. Anyhow, I still got a $760 rebate on a total bill of a bit over 
>> $4,000 and while I had hoped for a bit more it’s at least about 18% and the 
>> new LED fixtures are brighter, put out a nicer light and of course there is 
>> no more florescent hum, they are totally silent.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Sieghard
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>> Of Les Kriegler
>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 8:21 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Smart thermostats
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> You can get a rebate on smart thermostats. I bought a nest and got a $75 
>> rebate from my utility company. That brought the cost down.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 26, 2016, at 11:57 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Nest is quite expensive, haven’t checked Honeywell, but if you want a less 
>> expensive option you can check www.RadioThermostat.com. I have heard before 
>> that the basic thermostat used by them can also be bought at Home Depot for 
>> around $100. The current Nest thermostat (third generation) is double that 
>> on Amazon.com. Of course the Nest does work wit Alexa and I don’t think 
>> RadioThermostat.com has that integration, but I haven’t checked lately. I 
>> have owned three of the Radio Thermostats for probably 5 or 6 years now, two 
>> are at my retail store and one is at home, they are reliable and work, the 
>> app is accessible and the only criticism I have is that they don’t and don’t 
>> plan to implement Apple Home Kit support. I will most likely at some point 
>> start replacing these with one that does offer it, but not at a cost of over 
>> $200 canadian, it is after all not that difficult to ask SIRI to open the 
>> app and to then tap on the appropriate button a few times to raise or lower 
>> the temperature which is done in half degree Celsius increments.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Sieghard
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Sieghard
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>> Of Mauricio Molina
>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 7:54 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Smart thermostats
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The Sensi is also accessible. I chose this device because it is, supposedly, 
>> accessible with the Amazon Echo, but I have not yet gotten this part 
>> completely figured out. The company will provide phone tech support but I 
>> have not had the time to call. Using the app, I am able to control 
>> temperature settings and switch from air con to heat; my needs are fairly 
>> basic although the Sensi has several desirable features.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Mauricio
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>> Of Kevin Chao
>> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 10:44 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Smart thermostats
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Nest or Honeywell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 5:32 AM Tom Rash <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Do we have a list of smart thermostats that work with voice over yet?  I 
>> know this has been discussed before.  I’m happy to go through the archives 
>> if someone would post how to locate that thread and where to find them.  If 
>> any new info, please let me know.  Thanks.
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