I can't understand how you say market share has nothing to do with Apple's profits. If they had no market share they wouldn't be selling any phones.

I'm not sure why we're arguing about Apple's profitability though. They are a very profitable company. I don't think this means they can ignore market share though or stop listening to their customers. I will say though that they must be doing a lot of things right, and they aren't going to stray from their core principles that made them the wealthiest company in the world.

On 22/03/17 21:22, Mary Otten wrote:
For all those of you who apparently don't bother to read the technical
press, the great majority of apples profit comes from the iPhone. It's
that simple. And for those of you who say I should try android, I have.
In fact, I own to android devices, a Nexus six and an axon seven mini.
Before that, I had a Nexus seven. I would love to find a device that is
cheaper than an iPhone that does as well for me as an iPhone, because I
am like everybody else in that I like to save money there are things
about the Apple system that I do not appreciate, one of them being the
fact that is rather a pain to transfer files to and from an iPhone. On
the other hand, as someone who has a Mac, I offer you the observation
that transferring files between android devices and Mac is not a piece
of cake. So, grass is not always greener on that side of the fence either.
Also, the top-of-the-line android phones, such as those from Samsung on
the top in and the Google pixel are very comparable if not more
expensive than iPhones. As such, I would want those devices to be kept
up-to-date quickly for several years, as is the case with an iPhone. My
Nexus six which is I believe, the same vintage as an iPhone 6, has yet
to receive an update to the latest operating system. And it's not going
to get anymore. The iPhone 6 on the other hand, God it's update right
along with all other Apple iPhones. That is a huge drawback to Android,
and Google knows it. They're taking steps to fix it, but I remain
skeptical as to how successful they might be. I'm not saying android is
bad. And I think it's great that there are phones in many price ranges.
But what I am saying is that it is a simple matter of provable fact as
acknowledge in the technical and financial press that Apple makes the
vast majority of profit in the smart phone industry. You can love it or
leave it but you can't change it. And marketshare has absolutely nothing
to do with it.


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On Mar 22, 2017, at 6:51 PM, Pablo Cesar Morales <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

Most don’t make profit?

How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit?

It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are
moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should
recommend  that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus
6p, or a pixel phone. They are great.









*From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mary Otten
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making
most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make
android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in
business forever if they don't make a profit.
Mary


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On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS
    reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving
    away from Apple devices for just that reason.  With the added
    advances in the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get
    larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available higher
    than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are
    pushing it.  When they introduced the enhanced camera in the
    iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if
    people wanted to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that
    they’re still offering the 32 gig devices, especially in the iPad,
    but again, this is just the smaller issue.  How many phones out
    there are getting more and more waterproof and dust proof, and
    they don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in
    addition, the OS security could be plugged to avoid that sort of
    thing.  Fact is, I think that Apple is guarding it’s closed
    platform so people are forced to get their content from iTunes and
    App store.  Open up the file system and you’re looking at an
    easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t have that.
    Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes when it
    comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to a
    portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the
    Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in.  Just a
    thought.



    Victor



    *From:*Sieghard Weitzel

    *Sent:*Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM

    *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

    *Subject:*RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition
    Red iPhone - Bloomberg



    Hi Victor,



    I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and
    offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce
    media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or
    maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to
    give users access to what is on the SD card and that would
    possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform.
    Any SD card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a
    lot of latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all
    goes against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that
    even some high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I
    might be wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for
    example have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion
    slot on an iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of
    space, but having it on an iPhone is most likely not very
    practical as there hardly is any space left as is and of course
    making a highly waterproof or water resistant device would
    probably be much more difficult if the device had an SD card slot
    Personally I have no problem with Apple offering internal memory,
    I totally agree that nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I
    wonder how many people still buy 16 Gb devices if they can get a
    64 Gb device (4 times the space) for $100 more.



    Regards,

    Sieghard



    *From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Victor Gouveia
    *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:56 PM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition
    Red iPhone - Bloomberg



    I don’t agree.  Granted, the 300 dollar price tag is nice, but not
    with the memory it’s offering.



    I think the 32 and 16 models of any device is outdated, unless
    it’s got an expansion slot for an SD card.



    Frankly, I’m completely surprised that Apple hasn’t embraced this
    concept, since it would enable them to lower the amount of ROM
    memory on the device, and allow people to expand according to
    their budget.  Alas, it would seem that Apple is destined not to
    ever get the message.



    Victor



    *From:*Mr. Ed

    *Sent:*Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:40 PM

    *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

    *Subject:*RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition
    Red iPhone - Bloomberg



    Hi Mary,

    I would think if you could get a new iPad for $329 that would be a
    big deal.

    Mr. Ed



    *From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mary Otten
    *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:24 PM
    *To:* mailto:[email protected]
    *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition
    Red iPhone - Bloomberg



    These are not big deal upgrades. If they actually introduce a
    substantial a new iPad Pro, I would suppose they would do so with
    a bit more fanfare. But these upgrades are no big deal.
    Mary


    Sent from my iPhone


    On Mar 21, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        And it’s not even April 1 yet. Is this actually for real? I
        just heard on the Apple Byte Podcast that Digitimes said there
        would be an event in April where a new 10.5 inch iPad Pro
        would be introduced, hard to believe they would just do this
        without much fanfare, if I remember correctly they did a bit
        more last yer around the iPhone SE..





        *From:*[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Marissa Solaun
        *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:37 PM
        *To:* mailto:[email protected]
        *Subject:* Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition
        Red iPhone - Bloomberg



        May be of interest to those seeking a red iPhone 7/7+
        
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-21/apple-introduces-cheapest-ipad-yet-special-edition-red-iphone


          Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone

        More stories by Alex Webb
        <https://wwwbloomberg.com/authors/AQjTH3FjSCY/alex-webb>

        Apple Inc. <https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/AAPL:US>
        introduced a revamped version of its most popular-sized iPad
        at the cheapest price yet, and a shiny red iPhone 7, whose
        sales will help to combat AIDS.

        Apple unveiled a new 9.7-inch iPad with a brighter Retina
        display starting at $329, and a special edition red-aluminum
        finish iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus, part of the company’s
        decade-long partnership with (RED), which contributes to the
        Global Fund to fight HIV and AIDS.

        “Since we began working with (RED) 10 years ago, our customers
        have made a significant impact in fighting the spread of AIDS
        through the purchase of our products, from the original iPod
        nano (PRODUCT)RED Special Edition all the way to today’s
        lineup of Beats products and accessories for iPhone, iPad and
        Apple Watch,” Apple Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook said in a
        statement <wlmailhtml://news/terminal/ON6020MEQTXJ> Tuesday.

        Apple is the world’s largest corporate donor to the Global
        Fund, contributing more than $130 million, the company said.

        Apple is expected to reveal a significant upgrade to the
        iPhone later this year.
        Cupertino, California-based Apple last year unveiled a new
        iPhone which reignited sales growth in the Christmas quarter
        after a year of declines. Those falling sales came even as
        Apple introduced a cheaper handset in March in an effort to
        spur growth in emerging markets. The only sales growth in the
        2016 fiscal year came from the services business, which
        includes Apple Music and the App Store, and the other products
        category.

        Apple shares rose less than one percent to $142.55 at 10:24
        a.m. in New York. Earlier they hit a new intraday high of $142.80.

        The new iPad starts at $329 for 32GB with Wi-Fi and $459 for
        32GB Wi-Fi plus cellular. It will be available to order
        starting March 24 in the U.S. and more than 20 other countries
        and regions. The iPhone (RED) models will be available in
        128GB and 256GB models starting at $749 from March 24. Apple
        also announced new storage capacity for the iPhone SE. That
        4-inch display model will now be available in 32GB and 128GB
        models, doubling the current capacity and replacing the
        previous models.

        Other product launches Tuesday include a new app called Clips
        
<http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2017/03/21Apple-Introduces-Clips-The-Fun-New-Way-to-Create-Expressive-Videos-on-iOS.html>,
        that helps people combine video clips, photos and music that
        can be shared through social media and messages. Apple also
        said its Swift Playgrounds iPad app, which helps students
        learn to code, is available in five additional languages:
        Japanese, French, German, Spanish and simplified Chinese.


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