In additional to all of the wonderful suggestions, I'd also suggest exploring the screen first to find out where the app is on the screen and where the folder is you want to move it to. I didn't do this at first, and it was pretty frustrating exploring the screen looking for the folder I wanted to move the app to. If you leave your finger too long in one place then you may end up moving your app somewhere you don't want it moved to. Also, I find moving it closer to the folder where you eventually want it to end up is a good idea. It adds a step, but it's easier and less frustrating to do that that to undo an inadvertent move.
On 19/09/12 10:56, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Hi Simon, > > I am not aware that you can move apps with a keyboard. > > However, Voiceover is announcing which app you are moving and which app you > are moving it on to. I just tried this with Sendero GPS and Navigon which I > have next to each other on my first home screen. I have Navigon as the third > app from the left in row 3 and Sendero GPS as the very right app in the same > row, so just to the right of Navigon. I put focus on Sendero and did the > double tap and hold until I heard the tone and Voiceover was saying "Moving > Sendero GPS". Then I dragged my finger just a bit to the left and Voiceover > said "On Navigon" when I dragged it far enough, at first I kept dragging to > the left and then Voiceover said "Off Navigon, I kept my finger still for a > moment and then Voiceover said "Row 3, column 3" indicating that at that > point Navigon had moved over to the most right position (column 4) and > Sendero GPS was now in column 3 where Navigon was before. I dragged a bit > right again and heard "On Navigon" and when I let go Voiceover said > "Creating Navigation folder". Afterwards I double tapped on Sendero GPS > again and just moved straight up a good bit and Voiceover said "Outside > Navigation folder" and after I let go the folder disappeared again and > Navigon and Sendero GPS were in their original position. The row and column > announcement sometimes is there and sometimes it isn't, but it will > definitely say when you are on top of an app and what that app is and > Voiceover will also say "approaching border" if you get close to the left or > right edge and it will announce if you are in the correct position where you > have to pause and keep holding until it flips over to the next or previous > page. By the way, if you want to move an app from page 5 to page 1, just get > it to the edge and hold, once it wraps to Page 4 and if you keep holding > after about 2 seconds it will go to page 3, then to 2 and to 1. It will keep > going until you get to page 1 or until you lift your finger. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of goshawk on horseback > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:24 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over > > no, I am not very good with that sort of thing, but what really doesn't help > either, is that voice over doesn't tell me which app I have moved to, so > apart from the one I started with, I can't tell if I am on any of the other > ones, that I want to put in a folder. > is there any way I could do this with an external keyboard, so that spatial > awareness doesn't become an issue? as that is definitely not one of my > strong suits. > that could help a bit if there is. > > Simon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:21 PM > Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over > > > Hi again, Simon, > > I can understand your frustration, but this is a bit like selecting text to > copy and paste with the pinch gesture. It takes practice and a light touch > and I don't want to sound condescending, but there are some people who > somehow don't seem to learn certain gestures. There are even people who > can't get any useable results with the Fleksy app while most people who use > it are thrilled by how well it works and how fast one can type with it. And > this is not just blind people. I gave my Mom an iPad for her birthday last > year and for a few weeks she could just not get the hang of how to move apps > either, but eventually she did although I am sure some sighted people don't > either. The tricky thing when moving apps is that you have to have pretty > good special awareness and let's say I want to drag the app on the very > right in row 2 onto the second app from the left in row 3 to create a > folder. You have to be able to drag your finger straight to the left and > then down a bit, if you start out and end up going on a diagonal and maybe > even on a diagonal going up instead of down or down too steep without being > aware of that you will definitely have problems. I think in this case the > only way is to go very short dispances, just drag an app across the next app > and then stop, once 2 apps are either side by side or one on top of he other > I find it very easy to put them on top of one another to create the folder. > And one more trick. I find it easier to drag a folder around than to drag an > app around because if you accidently let go while the folder is on top of > another app nothing happens whereas if you accidently let go of an app while > it is on top of an app you don't want it will create a folder. So once you > have a folder started, just drag it next to whichever app you want to put in > it next and then just drag the app over a bit until it's on top of the > folder. > > > Good luck, > Sieghard > -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
