Actually, moving apps is fully and easily accessible. It is different from anything you know so requires patience and practice and possibly training to learn. I do it without difficulty.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: [email protected] Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 20/09/2012, at 2:50, "goshawk on horseback" <[email protected]> wrote: > I really don't know how, as I have found it far from accessible, and it has > just about driven me screaming mad! I have had wrong apps being moved in to > folders, or right apps being moved on to another page, resulting in the loss > of an app on that page. and that's supposed to be accessible? > not in my book it ain't! > > Simon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher Chaltain" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:35 PM > Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over > > > I suspect with the larger screen, you can get more apps in a > page/folder, maybe an extra row, but I don't know about additional > pages. I've always found adding apps to folders to be accessible, > although it did take me a bit of practice. Actually, I find it easier to > add apps to a folder than I do moving apps to another page. > > On 19/09/12 09:15, goshawk on horseback wrote: >> coming in a bit late here, can the new IOS support more than 11 pages of >> apps? and is moving apps in to folders now fully accessible? >> I have been finding these 2 issues a real problem on IOS5. >> >> Simon >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:37 PM >> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >> >> >> Hi, you could if you want to, but there is really no need to. Also, keep >> in mind that after about a week or so that iOS 6 is released, if you >> ever have to do a restore on your iDevice, it will automagically install >> iOS 6 anyway. >> >> -- >> Raul A. Gallegos >> If you're killed by a wild pig, does that mean you were boared to death? >> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com >> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 >> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 >> >> On 9/18/2012 11:17 AM, beverly wrote: >>> Is it possible that we can skip the IOS 6 and when the update comes out >>> just install that one? >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:38 AM >>> Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >>> >>> >>>> Hi Kawal, >>>> >>>> Unfortunately this does appear like it could be so, but one never knows, >>>> Apple was once in big trouble as well back in the early days and now >>>> they >>>> are the richest corporation in the world. I am not holding my breath >>>> regarding RIM, but as a Canadian and them being a Canadian company who >>>> once >>>> had the edge on everybody I do wish them well. >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Sieghard >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of Kawal Gucukoglu >>>> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:13 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >>>> >>>> Who said RIM? They might be dead from all the gloomy coverage they get. >>>> On 17 Sep 2012, at 21:09, Teresa Cochran <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I will add that you can search for apps by going to the Itunes store. >>>>> The >>>> search results will have a heading something like "Iphone apps". >>>>> >>>>> HtH, >>>>> Teresa >>>>> On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:09 PM, christopher hallsworth >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Go to apps in the sources tree or sources table depending on platform, >>>> and click the button indicating how many updates are available. Next >>>> click >>>> download all free updates. Supply your credentials when prompted and >>>> it will >>>> update on the computer side. Finally sync your device and your apps >>>> will be >>>> updated on the device as well. >>>>>> Sent from my mac >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 17 Sep 2012, at 19:12, Ron Pelletier <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am one who has always gone to the app store from my phone and >>>>>>> never through ITunes. Could someone quickly explain the procedure >>>>>>> to update apps from ITunes and that will make me feel a whole lot >>>>>>> better about updating to IOS 6. September 19 is my birthday and I >>>>>>> would like IOS 6 to be a birthday present and not a pain in the neck. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ron & Danvers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>>>> Behalf Of John Panarese >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:57 PM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To my knowledge, AppleVis has always been extremely informative >>>>>>> and reliable. I am glad that this was mentioned by them. As >>>>>>> someone pointed out, the store surely can change by Wednesday, so >>>>>>> let's hope it will be fixed. In the mean time, I'll rely on >>>>>>> AppleVis, as I have been doing for quite some time now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>> Director >>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>>> Email, [email protected] >>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com Twitter, @macfortheblind >>>>>>> >>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>>>>> >>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>> >>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:44 PM, "AnonyMouse" >>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jim, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We on the AppleVis don't blow smoke. If we have done that in the >>>>>>>> past I certainly like to hear about it. I certainly like to say >>>>>>>> that AppleVis has always been a reliable source of information. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As for the App Store issues this may not be a major issue if you >>>>>>>> consider turning VO on and off to do certain things. However, this >>>>>>>> is a pain for most others. The Features and the Charts I don't >>>>>>>> believe you can just do by turning on and off the VO. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I will make this statement on behalf of AppleVis. The App Store is >>>>>>>> the only major problems we have found. As for the other issues with >>>>>>>> in the IOS 6 itself is very minor. There are bugs but nothing major >>>>>>>> at all. I don't believe we have ever said there were major issues >>>>>>>> but we have said there were other issues. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So I don't like the way people on here would say we at AppleVis are >>>>>>>> blowing smoke. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> AnonyMouse >>>>>>>> AppleVis Editorial Team >>>>>>>> www.AppleVis.com >>>>>>>> Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville >>>>>>>> Zello: =AnonyMouse= >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>>>>> Behalf Of James Mannion >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:35 PM >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I agree and I don't know why they said that. It bothers me that >>>>>>>> they did. If they were going to go as far as they did, they could >>>>>>>> at leastmention the areas they were referring to. Let's hope they >>>>>>>> were blowing smoke and the others are right that there are not >>>>>>>> other major issues. A few have said there are not. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jim >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 9/16/12, John Diakogeorgiou <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> The thread on AppleVis implied that there are other problems as >>>>>>>>> well. >>>>>>>>> However from what I am reading hear it doesn't look that way. If >>>>>>>>> the only problem that exists is that the app store is hard to use >>>>>>>>> than unlike others I don't really care since I can do the same >>>>>>>>> thing using >>>>>>>> iTunes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Daniel Miller >>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:12 PM >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also, you guys need to realize the changes to the store aren't >>>>>>>>> going to be completely rolled out until iOS 6 launches on >>>>>>>>> Wednesday, so for those that can vouch for what Jonathon said, me >>>>>>>>> being one of them, there's a chance we won't see improvements >>>>>>>>> until the store changes are >>>>>>>> completely rolled out. >>>>>>>>> Even if there are none, I'm sure it's something easily fixable >>>>>>>>> since the changes to the stores don't' require a new version of iOS >>>> itself. >>>>>>>>> Just my 2 cents, take it or leave it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen >>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:52 PM >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> OK, this is my personal experience. The sky isn't falling in, and >>>>>>>>> the App Store isn't inaccessible. I update apps in iOS6 daily. I >>>>>>>>> think it is true to say that the information conveyed by VoiceOver >>>>>>>>> could be more helpful. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> First, the behaviour of the App Store has changed. As has already >>>>>>>>> been said in this thread, you no longer need to enter your >>>>>>>>> password when you >>>>>>>> update. >>>>>>>>> You do, however, contrary to some speculation in blogs a while >>>>>>>>> ago, still have to enter your password when you install a free app. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When you update an app, you are no longer taken out of the App >>>>>>>>> Store and placed on the page the app is installed on. Instead, you >>>>>>>>> simply stay in the App Store, right where you are. When you double >>>>>>>>> tap the update button, I can see nothing that gives you >>>>>>>>> confirmation that the app update has begun downloading. However, >>>>>>>>> if you go to your home screen right away, you will be able to see >>>>>>>>> that it in fact has, because you can see the percentage of the >>>>>>>>> download and install changing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So in no way do I think this should be seen as a reason not to >>>>>>>>> update. >>>> >>>>>>>>> yes, it would be nice if the update button changed to an updating, >>>>>>>>> or downloading, button after it is pressed, but it isn't >>>>>>>>> inaccessible at >>>>>>> all. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jonathan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 12:44 p.m. >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Jonathan, since many things have already been said and >>>>>>>>> speculated on, I would say that if you have information which >>>>>>>>> helps to clear things up, go right ahead. I'll let you be the >>>>>>>>> judge of how much you >>>>>>>> can say. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hopefully people will read this thread in its entirety before >>>> commenting. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lastly, to everyone, I still recommend you read all about the new >>>>>>>>> changes before you upgrade. The reason is because once you do, you >>>>>>>>> can't go back, and if you really don't like something, then you >>>>>>>>> will be forced to deal with it sooner than later. As it is, you >>>>>>>>> will have to move forward at some point, but maybe by not jumping >>>>>>>>> the gun so quickly, you won't be as surprised. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Raul A. Gallegos >>>>>>>>> There's a problem in the cockpit. The cockpit, what is it? It's >>>>>>>>> the little room in the front where the pilot sits but that's not >>>>>>>>> important >>>>>>>> right now. >>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>> Airplane Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com >>>>>>>>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Face book: >>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/rau47 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 9/16/2012 6:58 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I'd very much like to comment on this thread, but I would like >>>>>>>>>> clarification on whether the moderators are happy for the thread >>>>>>>>>> to continue given that those of us using iOS6 are still supposed >>>>>>>>>> to be under >>>>>>>>> NDA. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jonathan >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of James Mannion >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 10:22 a.m. >>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> Cc: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ok, other than the completely rediculously breaking functionality >>>>>>>>>> in updating apps, are there any other voiceover accessibility >>>>>>>>>> issues or reliability issues? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> Jim >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 9/16/12, Kliphton <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, >>>>>>>>>>> especially in iMessage. There are some new features in mail, >>>>>>>>>>> and we even have a do not disturb feature. That's all for now, >>>>>>>>>>> let's wait for >>>>>>>>> Wednesday. >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does >>>> anybody >>>>>>>>>>>> know what improvements invoice over? 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