Thank you, Rich.  

Got it.

Mark


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Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Free Writing App?

Mark, 
Voice Dream Writer allows for text markup so your final document can be 
exported with headings, bullets, etc.
You can export to RTF or Word.
You can navigate and edit by headings, paragraphs or sentences.
It has a great spell checker, and more.
Here is the link:
Voice Dream Writer by Voice Dream LLC 
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voice-dream-writer/id920583100?mt=8


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On Dec 7, 2017, at 11:51 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
Hello Rich and Everyone,

I’m afraid this thread has me a bit baffled.  

When you speak of a, writing app, do you mean a word processor?  

Also, does anyone have the link to Writer as I would like to take a look at it? 
 

Do these writing apps offer some extra features not available in Pages or Word? 
 

Thank you,

Mark

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Writer is $9.99 but well worth it in my opinion. 
I know nothing about Scribner.
MS-Word is free, but not very user friendly with VoiceOver. It is almost 
impossible to keep track of where you are in a document.
It might be a little better than Pages, but not great.
Richard



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On Dec 7, 2017, at 5:39 AM, K. Scott Carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote:
It seems like the top ones that people recommend are Scrivener, VoiceDream 
Writer and MS Word.

On 12/6/2017 8:40 PM, Michael Feir wrote:
I completely get that feeling. However, they make a pretty good case. Good 
enough to convince me at any rate. I'm in this for the long haul. I want a tool 
which will not suddenly disappear or be left to age ungracefully. Not so long 
ago, there were some wonderful audio games which even had famous voice actors 
like Sean Bean as narrators. They're gone now because the developers couldn't 
make enough profit to keep in business making games. Papa Sangre and Audio 
Defence can't be bought anymore and you'd need older hardware to run them. I 
never got to win any of those games before they reached the point where they 
wouldn't work on new versions of iOS. That's what can happen when you pay once 
and everyone else interested has also paid once.

The subscription model gives them the income they need to keep working on 
Ulysses in a more considered way than with other apps. With a one-time feee, 
you buy what you get but there's no funds or obligation for the developer to 
keep working on it. Also, in order to attract more customers, you need to make 
big changes with that in mind rather than the more considered changes you make 
when you rely on people sticking with you who like what you offered at the time 
you subscribed.

When I've put in tech support requests, I've gotten consistantly reasonable 
good responses. They're a small company but they really care about problems 
faced by subscribers. I don't think blind people make a huge percentage of 
their subscribers but they nevertheless address accessibility issues as that's 
possible. Frankly, I'm in this out of pure interest to see how a steady income 
changes app development and mind set for these folks. I want to see how thing 
develop over the years presuming they manage to last. They['ve gotten tonds of 
attention from writers so I think they have a very good chance of staying the 
corse and keeping their subscribers happy.

Anyhow, that's why I got on board. It's not perfect. There's a movement lag 
when yo first move onto a document with Voiceover. However, writing works fine 
but they're going to improve movement of the cursor with VoiceOver as soon as 
they can. It's good enough that I'm more than willing to put up with a few 
things in order to have the rest. I'll keep an ear on this threas to see what 
other people may have found when it comes to writing apps. 

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 8:08 PM kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote:
I totally understand a subscription model for a service like Spotify where 
you're paying for access to a catalog. But not with something like a writing 
tool for personal use; a one-time charge makes more sense from my perspective.
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 6, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Michael Feir <michael.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
I personally find Ulysses worth the subscription. It'll be even more the case 
once they deal with a touch of cluggishness navigating with VoiceOver. That's 
on the agenda. One alternative you may want to check out is Bear. I don't 
believe it's a subscription model app. There's also Scrivener. Pages from Apple 
is their free word processor. I didn't like it but others may find it suits 
them. You might also want to try Microsoft Word which is free on iOS. Hope that 
helps. 

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 5:30 PM Stephanie Mitchell <natureloving...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
I use byword. It is similar but a little cheaper. 

Steph 

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Does anyone have any recommendations for either a free or inexpensive 
writing app that is accessible? I was thinking of getting Ulysses but I 
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