I would agree with you, Sieghard, that Word documents work so much better on pc or Mac but Apple is busy telling the world that a new iPad is an ideal business machine - but, obviously, only if you are not Blind...
> On 20 Jan 2018, at 01:12, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > Not to rain on your parade, but there still are things which are better done > on a computer bluetooth keyboard or not and in my opinion word processing and > spreadsheets are in that category. Actually, email and web browsing for me > are as well. I can read, compose and reply to email so fast on my PC and the > same goes for navigating web pages let alone filling out stuff on them that > there is just no comparison. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > K. Scott Carlson > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 1:15 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Free Writing App? > > I do have a bluetooth keyboard, whch is one of the reasons I'm trying to find > a good Word processor. > >> On 1/19/18, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: >> Well, as far as I know, the only apps that allow editing of word >> documents are Pages and Word. >> Frankly, I don't think either one works very well with VoiceOver. Word >> might work a little better than pages, but you will find it rather >> tedious and without a bluetooth keyboard, I wouldn't waste my time. >> Richard >> >> >> >> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6) >> >> On Jan 19, 2018, at 9:49 AM, K. Scott Carlson >> <kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> To make clear what I'm looking for, it's pretty simple: >> >> I need an app that can, at the very least, read already-created Word >> files. i need it to have basic reading and editing functions but to be >> focused primarily on word processing itself; I'm not interested in, >> for example, novel creation. I haven't experimented too much with Word >> or Pages but it sounds like I may need to try them. Scrivener is not >> something I'm willing to pay for, and it sounds like with Writer one >> can only create one document at a time. >> >> So, perhaps there simply isn't an app that fulfills what I'm looking >> for out there. >> >> On 12/9/17, Kimberly >> <kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com<mailto:kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> While I am not familiar with Byword, I have been using Drafts for >> sometime now and like it very well. It is exactly what it says, a >> drafting app which while it allows you to mark up your text, it does >> not allow saving of documents. You have to for example copy then paste >> whatever you've written into another app to save it. So keep that in >> mind when making your decision. >> >> >> >> The beauty of the Drafts app is its simplicity and of use. So if you >> don't mind the limitations I described above, I think it's a great choice. >> >> Sent from Kimber's iPhone >> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it >> that we go on.—Annie Proulx >> >> On Dec 8, 2017, at 10:44 PM, Apple Nerd >> <the.big.apple.n...@hotmail.com<mailto:the.big.apple.n...@hotmail.com> >>> >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> Which app would be worth getting? Byword or Drafts? >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> On Dec 8, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Richard Turner >> <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> >> wrote: >> >> I know it can import txt files, I'm not sure beyond that. >> It can export to several including rtf and word. >> It is primarily for document creation. >> Richard >> >> >> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject >> of flying. >> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies >> in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." >> 🖖🏿 >> >> >> On Dec 8, 2017, at 5:57 AM, Kimber Gardner >> <kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com<mailto:kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Denny, >> >> What writing was that? Also, I couldn't find a novel idea in the app >> store. Do you have a link? >> >> Just as a point of information, I was going to try the writer app, but >> every time I tap the more tab the app causes my phone to freeze. >> >> On 12/7/17, Denny Schwab >> <denny.sch...@gmail.com<mailto:denny.sch...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> The Writing App I mentioned is set up to help you write a novel. You >> can create Characters, Chapters, and put together Items and other >> things. It collects all of these into Novels. A Novel Idea did the >> same sort of thing, but also added in the ability to link characters >> and ideas to multiple novels, and let you set up relationships between >> characters. Both are much more than just a word processor. >> >> Denny >> >> On 12/7/17, Richard Turner >> <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: >> Mark, >> Voice Dream Writer allows for text markup so your final document can >> be exported with headings, bullets, etc. >> You can export to RTF or Word. >> You can navigate and edit by headings, paragraphs or sentences. >> It has a great spell checker, and more. >> Here is the link: >> Voice Dream Writer by Voice Dream LLC >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fitun >> es.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fvoice-dream-writer%2Fid920583100%3Fmt%3D8&da >> ta=02%7C01%7C%7Cca677bb26d3c42aed50d08d53e43a170%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb43 >> 5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636483382544205584&sdata=Jx7UvVh4lZgR05i8r5jT3 >> 37gnKvTYTZy2lJPAUUJuF0%3D&reserved=0 >> >> >> Richard >> >> >> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject >> of flying. >> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies >> in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." >> 🖖🏿 >> >> >> On Dec 7, 2017, at 11:51 AM, M. Taylor >> <mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu><mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote: >> >> Hello Rich and Everyone, >> >> I’m afraid this thread has me a bit baffled. >> >> When you speak of a, writing app, do you mean a word processor? >> >> Also, does anyone have the link to Writer as I would like to take a >> look >> at >> it? >> >> Do these writing apps offer some extra features not available in Pages >> or >> Word? >> >> Thank you, >> >> Mark >> >> From: >> viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner >> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 6:15 AM >> To: >> viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: Free Writing App? >> >> >> Writer is $9.99 but well worth it in my opinion. >> I know nothing about Scribner. >> MS-Word is free, but not very user friendly with VoiceOver. It is >> almost >> impossible to keep track of where you are in a document. >> It might be a little better than Pages, but not great. >> Richard >> >> >> >> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6) >> >> On Dec 7, 2017, at 5:39 AM, K. Scott Carlson >> <kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com><mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> >> wrote: >> It seems like the top ones that people recommend are Scrivener, >> VoiceDream >> Writer and MS Word. >> >> On 12/6/2017 8:40 PM, Michael Feir wrote: >> I completely get that feeling. However, they make a pretty good case. >> Good >> enough to convince me at any rate. I'm in this for the long haul. I >> want >> a >> tool which will not suddenly disappear or be left to age >> ungracefully. >> Not >> so long ago, there were some wonderful audio games which even had >> famous >> voice actors like Sean Bean as narrators. They're gone now because >> the >> developers couldn't make enough profit to keep in business making >> games. >> Papa Sangre and Audio Defence can't be bought anymore and you'd need >> older >> hardware to run them. I never got to win any of those games before >> they >> reached the point where they wouldn't work on new versions of iOS. >> That's >> what can happen when you pay once and everyone else interested has >> also >> paid >> once. >> >> The subscription model gives them the income they need to keep working >> on >> Ulysses in a more considered way than with other apps. With a >> one-time >> feee, >> you buy what you get but there's no funds or obligation for the >> developer >> to >> keep working on it. Also, in order to attract more customers, you need >> to >> make big changes with that in mind rather than the more considered >> changes >> you make when you rely on people sticking with you who like what you >> offered >> at the time you subscribed. >> >> When I've put in tech support requests, I've gotten consistantly >> reasonable >> good responses. They're a small company but they really care about >> problems >> faced by subscribers. I don't think blind people make a huge >> percentage >> of >> their subscribers but they nevertheless address accessibility issues >> as >> that's possible. Frankly, I'm in this out of pure interest to see how >> a >> steady income changes app development and mind set for these folks. I >> want >> to see how thing develop over the years presuming they manage to >> last. >> They['ve gotten tonds of attention from writers so I think they have >> a >> very >> good chance of staying the corse and keeping their subscribers happy. >> >> Anyhow, that's why I got on board. It's not perfect. There's a >> movement >> lag >> when yo first move onto a document with Voiceover. However, writing >> works >> fine but they're going to improve movement of the cursor with >> VoiceOver >> as >> soon as they can. It's good enough that I'm more than willing to put >> up >> with >> a few things in order to have the rest. I'll keep an ear on this >> threas >> to >> see what other people may have found when it comes to writing apps. >> >> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 8:08 PM kelby carlson >> <kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com><mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> >> wrote: >> I totally understand a subscription model for a service like Spotify >> where >> you're paying for access to a catalog. But not with something like a >> writing >> tool for personal use; a one-time charge makes more sense from my >> perspective. >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 6, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Michael Feir >> <michael.f...@gmail.com<mailto:michael.f...@gmail.com><mailto:michael.f...@gmail.com>> >> wrote: >> I personally find Ulysses worth the subscription. It'll be even more >> the >> case once they deal with a touch of cluggishness navigating with >> VoiceOver. >> That's on the agenda. One alternative you may want to check out is >> Bear. >> I >> don't believe it's a subscription model app. There's also Scrivener. >> Pages >> from Apple is their free word processor. I didn't like it but others >> may >> find it suits them. You might also want to try Microsoft Word which >> is >> free >> on iOS. Hope that helps. >> >> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 5:30 PM Stephanie Mitchell >> <natureloving...@gmail.com<mailto:natureloving...@gmail.com><mailto:natureloving...@gmail.com>> >> wrote: >> I use byword. It is similar but a little cheaper. >> >> Steph >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: K. Scott Carlson >> To: >> viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Date: 12/07/2017 08:19 AM >> Subject: Free Writing App? >> >> Does anyone have any recommendations for either a free or inexpensive >> writing app that is accessible? 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