Is it possible Now to  to make and read comments in Microsoft Word file and use 
track changes to suggest deletion and revisions ? 
I would love to pay for an app that allows it with VoiceOver 
 

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> On Dec 7, 2017, at 9:41 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
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> I don't understand the subscription approach either as someone receiving 
> money on a regular basis does not guarantee that they won't go out of 
> business, which was one justification given.
> I will say, though, that when an app is as thorough as Writer, I'd be willing 
> to pay for added features to show support for the developer.
> There are several apps that have made significant advances that I would have 
> gladly paid more for, but they didn't ask for anything.
> Then, there are some apps that add features that cost the developer more to 
> add, like Blind Square, and he does ask for the user to pay for them, which 
> is totally fine with me. You can always just stick to the app, and not add 
> the extra feature.
> But, as always, this is completely a personal choice for each user.
> Just my opinion,
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
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> On Dec 7, 2017, at 6:17 AM, Jenifer Barr <claudas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I use writer.  I don't understand what the justification of a 
>> subscription-based writing tool?  
>> Jen
>> 
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>> On Dec 7, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Writer is $9.99 but well worth it in my opinion.
>>> I know nothing about Scribner.
>>> MS-Word is free, but not very user friendly with VoiceOver. It is almost 
>>> impossible to keep track of where you are in a document.
>>> It might be a little better than Pages, but not great.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> On Dec 7, 2017, at 5:39 AM, K. Scott Carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It seems like the top ones that people recommend are Scrivener, VoiceDream 
>>>> Writer and MS Word.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/6/2017 8:40 PM, Michael Feir wrote:
>>>>> I completely get that feeling. However, they make a pretty good case. 
>>>>> Good enough to convince me at any rate. I'm in this for the long haul. I 
>>>>> want a tool which will not suddenly disappear or be left to age 
>>>>> ungracefully. Not so long ago, there were some wonderful audio games 
>>>>> which even had famous voice actors like Sean Bean as narrators. They're 
>>>>> gone now because the developers couldn't make enough profit to keep in 
>>>>> business making games. Papa Sangre and Audio Defence can't be bought 
>>>>> anymore and you'd need older hardware to run them. I never got to win any 
>>>>> of those games before they reached the point where they wouldn't work on 
>>>>> new versions of iOS. That's what can happen when you pay once and 
>>>>> everyone else interested has also paid once.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The subscription model gives them the income they need to keep working on 
>>>>> Ulysses in a more considered way than with other apps. With a one-time 
>>>>> feee, you buy what you get but there's no funds or obligation for the 
>>>>> developer to keep working on it. Also, in order to attract more 
>>>>> customers, you need to make big changes with that in mind rather than the 
>>>>> more considered changes you make when you rely on people sticking with 
>>>>> you who like what you offered at the time you subscribed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I've put in tech support requests, I've gotten consistantly 
>>>>> reasonable good responses. They're a small company but they really care 
>>>>> about problems faced by subscribers. I don't think blind people make a 
>>>>> huge percentage of their subscribers but they nevertheless address 
>>>>> accessibility issues as that's possible. Frankly, I'm in this out of pure 
>>>>> interest to see how a steady income changes app development and mind set 
>>>>> for these folks. I want to see how thing develop over the years presuming 
>>>>> they manage to last. They['ve gotten tonds of attention from writers so I 
>>>>> think they have a very good chance of staying the corse and keeping their 
>>>>> subscribers happy.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyhow, that's why I got on board. It's not perfect. There's a movement 
>>>>> lag when yo first move onto a document with Voiceover. However, writing 
>>>>> works fine but they're going to improve movement of the cursor with 
>>>>> VoiceOver as soon as they can. It's good enough that I'm more than 
>>>>> willing to put up with a few things in order to have the rest. I'll keep 
>>>>> an ear on this threas to see what other people may have found when it 
>>>>> comes to writing apps. 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 8:08 PM kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I totally understand a subscription model for a service like Spotify 
>>>>>> where you're paying for access to a catalog. But not with something like 
>>>>>> a writing tool for personal use; a one-time charge makes more sense from 
>>>>>> my perspective.
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Michael Feir <michael.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I personally find Ulysses worth the subscription. It'll be even more 
>>>>>>> the case once they deal with a touch of cluggishness navigating with 
>>>>>>> VoiceOver. That's on the agenda. One alternative you may want to check 
>>>>>>> out is Bear. I don't believe it's a subscription model app. There's 
>>>>>>> also Scrivener. Pages from Apple is their free word processor. I didn't 
>>>>>>> like it but others may find it suits them. You might also want to try 
>>>>>>> Microsoft Word which is free on iOS. Hope that helps. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 5:30 PM Stephanie Mitchell 
>>>>>>>> <natureloving...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I use byword. It is similar but a little cheaper. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Steph 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: K. Scott Carlson 
>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>> Date: 12/07/2017 08:19 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Free Writing App?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any recommendations for either a free or inexpensive 
>>>>>>>> writing app that is accessible? I was thinking of getting Ulysses but 
>>>>>>>> I 
>>>>>>>> don't want to pay a subscription fee for an app like that.
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