Mike,

The SE has to power/lock button at the top right which is where it was for all 
iPhones up to the 4S.
Starting with the iPhone 5 and now with , all other iPhone models except the SE 
the power/lock button is just around the corner from yours, instead of on the 
top it’s on the top of the right side just across from the volume buttons.
You do, by the way, just had to press the home button once to wake up the phone 
and pressing the power /lock button will also wake it up, if it’s awake it will 
put it to sleep and if it’s asleep/locked it will wake it up.
I don’t think anybody was accusing you of BS, it was simply how you expressed 
yourself. You said that you turn off the phone when it’s locked which is not 
possible, what you should have said is that you turn off your phone from the 
lock screen.
I got rid of my landline over 10 years ago, I need and want a cell phone and as 
soon as I could get a plan which allows me unlimited incoming calls and a good 
deal of outgoing calls (now also unlimited for calls in Canada) I didn’t think 
I had to pay for 2 phone services, cell phone and landline. This way by now all 
my friends and wherever it counts they all have my cell number and I rarely 
even get a voice mail because unless it’s during the night or when I’m in a 
meeting, in church, the pool or whatever my phone is on and I typically take my 
calls.want and nas soon

Regards,
Sieghard

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 10:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Start-Up Sounds

Hi Sieghard & List Members,

I lock my screen by pressing the power button / key at the top of the phone, 
and when I press this button i get a sound that I've can hear easily .  To 
unlock the screen I press the Home button twice.  I don't know anything about 
Lock Screen side buttons.  My side buttons are used for controlling volume, but 
if I get an incoming call I can press a volume up / down button, or the power 
button to force the call to go to Voice Mail.  Using the power button at the 
top is the only way I know of to lock the screen, i.e  touch the screen all day 
long and nothing happens, as you say.  I do not have any type of vibrate mode 
turned on, so whether this makes a difference or not I don't know.  It seems 
like you're using a different model phone because of your statement about 
locking the screen using a side button.  I'm using a SE model iPhone, and to my 
knowledge, which isn't much, I can't lock the screen with my side buttons, 
unless there's a setting that can be switched to allow this.  My example of 
answering the phone from a locked screen was indeed a por examble, but I was in 
a hurry and just used a poor example., but I do have a setting that allows me 
to access certain things from the locked screen.

It seems like I use my phone backwards than most people on this list, but this 
shouldn't make a difference.  I don't depend on my phone for hardly anything, 
i.e, when we're at either of our homes I forward my cell phone number to that 
homes home phone number, and turn it off!  So, my phone is off much more than 
it's on.  Now having said all this long drawn out crap trying to state my point 
about my start-up sounds, I'm not making up what I'm hearing!  My phone does 
exactly what I've stated it does, and whether y'all believe it or not I don't 
care.  I have yet to meet someone that knows everything, but yet when someone 
does something differently than others, and just because some haven't 
experienced the same sort of experiences as others they're too quick to make it 
sound like, like in this case, I'm reporting erroneous BS!

Like I said in an earlier post a friend of mine has an SE phone and his phone 
is reacting the exact same way as mine.  Okay, enough is enough, and we can 
debate this until..., but no hard feelings and we can all just move on.  I do 
appreciate all your feedback whether we agree or not because it does further my 
learning curve with my phone.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 9:02 PM
Subject: RE: Start-Up Sounds

I guess it depends on what you mean when you say “screen locked”.
If you are using your phone and then press the sleep/power button on the side 
briefly the screen locks and at that point you can touch the screen all day 
long and nothing will happen.
If, however, you mean that you are at the lock screen when you say “screeen 
locked” then that is very different. If you are at the lock screen where you 
see your date and time and where you are asked to swipe to unlock then that 
simply means you are at the lock screen and not that the screen is locked.
As Maria said, when your screen  is locked and the phone rings, the screen 
wakes up, displays who is calling and the buttons to accept or decline the 
call, all of that is on the “lock screen” but it is not while “the screen is 
locked”.
I just tried this and I think maybe Apple replaced the brief vibration one felt 
when the phone was plugged in with a sort of ding sound. When I turned the 
phone off from the lock screen and turned it back on without having it plugged 
in there was no sound. If I turn the phone off and then plug in the Lightning 
cable the phone starts up and then I hear this single ding about 15 seconds 
after I plug it in and then a few seconds later Voiceover talks on the lock 
screen.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 3:34 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Start-Up Sounds

Because when your phone rings it activates so you can do the 2 finger double 
tap to answer the call.

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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Mike 
B. <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 5:49:03 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Start-Up Sounds

Hi Sieghard,

What you and Steve say is true, but by going by what you say, how come I can 
answer the phone with the screen locked?!  Apparently some functions can be 
done with the screen locked, but anyways how ever it's doing what it's doing, 
at least I can now have a sound play and the phone speak at start-up by 
shutting it down / restarting the way I described.  We tested with a friend's 
phone and it works this way on his phone as well.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 7:32 AM
Subject: RE: Start-Up Sounds

I wonder this too, even if the screen is locked when you press and hold the 
power button it sort of unlocks to display the “Double tap to power off” 
message and you have to double tap to do this.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Steve 
Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 6:55 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Start-Up Sounds


How can the screen possibly be locked during shutdown or restart? It has to be 
unlocked to perform those functions.

On 4/25/2018 7:55 AM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi Simon,

I didn't do anything to the phone to make it work this way.  Apparently I 
haven't been locking the screen or having it locked when shutting it down, but 
anyways if the screen is locked, and when the phone is unplugged it'll make the 
audible sound / speak a home screen icon when it's booted up.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Simon' via VIPhone<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 4:28 AM
Subject: Re: Start-Up Sounds

What did you do?
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 25, 2018, at 7:25 AM, Mike B. 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi All,

Okay, I did find a solution to what I wanted.  I don't know if this sounds 
weird, but if the screen is locked when I shut the phone down, when I boot it 
up it makes a nice audible sound, and VoiceOverspeaks a home screen icon.  
Thanks to everyone for their input.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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