Hi Alan and all, How interesting that apps were loaded from your iTunes backup. When my daughter restored from an iTunes backup a year ago, all her apps were loaded from the cloud. That's why I thought they were always loaded from the cloud regardless of which kind of backup you do. I wish Apple would explain what's going on so we didn't have to guess!
Anna > On Sep 5, 2018, at 11:05 AM, Alan Lemly <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Arnold, > > I'm running iTunes 12.8.0.16 and also expected the latest version of my apps > to be downloaded from the cloud when I restored my iTunes encrypted backup to > my new iPhone 8. However, this isn't what happened. Even though you're ight > that iTunes no longer lets you backup apps to your local computer, I somehow > ended up with the same versions of my apps on my iPhone 8 that I had running > on my iPhone 7. I'm sure of this because when I went into updates on the Apps > Store, I still had over 70 apps listed there with newer versions. If all of > my apps had been downloaded with their most current versions, nothing should > have shown on the Apps Store update screen except apss that had a new release > uploaded very recently. > > I was glad I had my iTunes backup because I initially selected restore from > the cloud backup as it didn't give me any other options except for setting it > up as a brand new phone and I knew I didn't want that. During the cloud > restore, I started getting prompts that the iPhone wanted the password for an > Apple ID that I did not recognize and was not my email address. When this > started happening, I launched iTunes and restored my encrypted backup which > ran overnight and returned everything to what I expected. Well, I had one app > that was no longer available in the Apps Store so that was not restored. So, > I'm confused how and where the apps are obtained when doing a restore from an > encrypted backup. My experience seems to say they come from the cloud but if > the apps are still available, you get whatever version you were running when > you backed up your device. > > Alan Lemly > > From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf > Of Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 1:31 AM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup > > I will be delighted if I am wrong about this, but starting with ITunes 12.7, > apps no longer are backed up to an encrypted backup. When one restores the > device, the latest version of the app is restored to the device. Also, > remember that if you have spent any time arranging your home screens the way > you want them, or making folders for apps, I think all that will be gone > and the apps will appear in alphabetical order. I do not know if the > customized screens will be restored from an encrypted backup or not, I do not > think they are restored from an ICloud backup. They use to be restored from > an encrypted backup. > > > Arnold Schmidt > > On Sep 5, 2018, at 1:16 AM, Kimberly <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > The one advantage encrypted backups have is that you can return to a previous > version of an app it necessary. Say for example, accessibility is broken in a > later update or if the app should disappear from the app store, with an > encrypted backup you still have the older version. With iCloud you always get > the latest version of your apps. > > Sent from Kimber's iPhone > The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we > go on.—Annie Proulx > > On Sep 4, 2018, at 8:25 PM, Anna Dresner <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> Hi Keith, >> >> Both types of backups back up all of the same information. If you restore >> from a backup, even iTunes backups download your apps from the app store if >> you restore from them, so there isn't a speed advantage in restoring from >> iTunes either. I would suggest backing up with icloud on a regular basis and >> doing an encrypted iTunes backup before you get a new device so that if you >> have to restore from the backup, the iTunes one is available in case >> something is wrong with the iCloud one. >> >> Best, >> Anna >> >> >> >> On Sep 4, 2018, at 6:22 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I understand iCloud backups are getting close to encrypted iTunes backups. >> Is there still an advantage or advantages to encrypted iTunes backups? >> >> Thanks in advance. 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