Hi David, Well, short of finding a bigger name on the other side of the controversy, or something documented then it would seem that the recommended way Apple says to do this is correct as you did lose data. The other issue was that the crash/reset was recommended just to restart the phone and in going back through the thread, it turned out to be that the culprit was that recently identified punctuation bug so nothing drastic or risky was needed. Thanks for the feedback.
Jon -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: VOICE-OVER KEYBOARD BUG! I used the method when an app appeared to have frozen my iPhone about a year and a half ago. When my iPhone recovered, the app was corrupt and would not run properly. I saved the app on my computer before I downloaded it again from the App Store. The downloaded app was a different size (a little bit larger, and functioned properly. So, I spoke with a systems engineer friend who tested both methods of hard rebooting using his sophisticated monitoring software on his work network. He told me that the multiple press of the power button created an instability which he said could negatively impact any app or data that was currently running. He said the chances were extremely low, but he would not use said method. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: [email protected] Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 26/09/2012, at 11:47, "Jon Pierson" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi again David, > I keep looking for clarification but in what way have you seen data > loss with this method? > > Jon > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of David Chittenden > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 3:18 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: VOICE-OVER KEYBOARD BUG! > > And has been blocked when VO isn't running. It is the only way of > forced reboot which has ever corrupted data in my iPhone. Holding > power and home for 10 seconds does the same thing but is safer and is > Apple's recommended method if the iOS device fails. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: [email protected] > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 26/09/2012, at 8:59, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Cringe away. That method was suggested by an Apple staff person. >> >> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch >> with it." - Jane Wagner (Sent from an iPhone 4s) >> >> >> On Sep 25, 2012, at 12:43 PM, "Jon Pierson" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> I still cringe when I see the below advice, why not say to Siri: reboot. >>> Or why not just press power and home together and hold for a few seconds? >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Richard Turner >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:03 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: VOICE-OVER KEYBOARD BUG! >>> >>> I just tried it again and all the punctuation speaks just fine. >>> Try doing the thing where you press the power button six times very > quickly. >>> Then, when VoiceOver reloads and you unlock the phone, try it again. >>> >>> If that doesn't work, then you may need to talk with your local >>> Apple > store. >>> >>> HTH, >>> Richard >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Carol Pearson >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:58 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: VOICE-OVER KEYBOARD BUG! >>> >>> >>> OK, in any textbox, I may go to put in a - in a word. As I slide my >>> finger along, the only punctuation character which speaks >>> automatically is the comma and this is weird since I am not sure >>> that I recall this happening when I was writing yesterday. Since >>> then I've > only downloaded two books! >>> >>> Which reset do you suggest I try? >>> >>> Carol P >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Richard Turner <mailto:[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 5:35 PM >>> Subject: RE: VOICE-OVER KEYBOARD BUG! >>> >>> So am I. >>> In what situation are you not able to get those symbols to type >>> exactly? >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Carol Pearson >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:30 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: VOICE-OVER KEYBOARD BUG! >>> >>> >>> Should have said that I'm using a 4S. >>> >>> Carol P >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Richard Turner <mailto:[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:59 PM >>> Subject: RE: VOICE-OVER KEYBOARD BUG! >>> >>> I have no trouble using any of the symbols below the numbers >>> with touch or standard typing. >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carol Pearson >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:51 AM >>> To: VI Phone Users >>> Subject: VOICE-OVER KEYBOARD BUG! >>> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I think I've found a rather bad keyboard bug, unless my phone >>> is acting up. >>> >>> To ensure I wasn't wasting bandwidth, I've already removed >>> everything from the switcher and rebooted my phone before trying >>> this again and havfe got the same results. >>> >>> Basically, whether in touch typing or standard mode, going to >>> the row of characters below the numbers just gives me clicks. The >>> only way I can produce these is from memory and then, once the key >>> has been tapped and my finger has been removed, I can hear the >>> result of what I've just typed. >>> >>> This also appears to be the cdase on the Emoji keyboard. >>> Effectivfely this means that you cannot slide your finger around to >>> find the punctuation/symbol you need to type. >>> >>> It seems we've found quite a number of bugs today. Perhaps some >>> of us need to get together, compile the list and then send to >>> Support together, to add numbers and weight to what we're saying. >>> >>> >>> >>> Carol P >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>> "VIPhone" Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>> "VIPhone" Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>> "VIPhone" Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>> "VIPhone" Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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