Mary;
When I can’t get my Face ID to work i use my passcode and it works just fine.


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> On Sep 24, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi sieghard,
> Of course people didn’t complain when  touch ID was introduced, because it’s 
> easy, for the vast majority of people at least, and it’s more convenient than 
> a passcode. You still didn’t have to use it. You could keep using the 
> passcode if that’s what you wanted. Now we have Face ID or nothing going 
> forward, once the iPhone 8 and older are out of the system. Of course, you 
> can go back to using just the passcode, which is a downgrade from using touch 
> ID. For my particular use case, face ID is less convenient, and we’ve already 
> had the discussion about security issues surrounding having attention mode 
> turned off. The fact that some manufacturers, such as Samsung, are still 
> offering a choice between face recognition or a fingerprint sensor would 
> indicate that there is some validity to the idea that not everybody is 
> thrilled with face ID. All I wish is that Apple gave us that choice. They 
> choose not to. So there you go. 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 10:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi   Marry,
>> 
>> You say we     shouldn't be forced to use         Face Id, interestingly 
>> enough when Apple introduced Touch Id or enter a passcode I don't recall 
>> people complaining about being "dforced" to use Touch Id. Of course this 
>> mainly had to do because prior to Touch Id it was enter a passcode or 
>> nothing, but Apple has shown that Face Id is more secure by a huge factor 
>> and we all know it has always been Apple's way to give us what they think is 
>> best so there is little point foro anybody to complain, just like with the 
>> 3.5mm audio jack, Apple   will not suddenly say next year that based on 
>> popular demand they are bringing back Touch Id and in any case, if it was 
>> put up to a vote I doubt Touch Id would win especially now with the improved 
>> Face Id, also unless they can figure out how to let you put your finger 
>> anywhere on the screen for Touch Id, where would they put the Touch Id 
>> sensor. If you follow the tech news a bit you know how much people 
>> complained when I think it was Samsung put the Touch Id sensor on the back 
>> of the phone because they of course also got rid of the home button. It is 
>> my guess that one day phones will have no more buttons at all except maybe 
>> for the on/off button.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:20 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of 
>> Them, (Smile)
>> 
>> I am not a fan of face ID. I would rather stick with touch ID. However, how 
>> many times has touch ID failed you? I have certainly had failed me. I have 
>> to enter my passcode from time to time, because the phone hasn’t recognize 
>> the finger that is in there for touch ID. This really sounds like a mountain 
>> out of a mole hill to me. If you think about all the times everybody who has 
>> a touch ID phone has had that not work for them on one occasion or another, 
>> we could string lots of anecdotes together I’m quite sure. So let’s get 
>> real. I think there should be an alternative. We shouldn’t be forced to use 
>> Face ID, but Apple thinks otherwise. Buy an iPhone 8 if you want. But sooner 
>> or later, he will be using something besides touch ID if you want to stay 
>> with Apple.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Michael Irons <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> After hearing about these face ID fill your stories, I do not want to get 
>>> the new iPhone with Face ID. I am like you mark I would rather get the 
>>> iPhone 8 plus go with the fingerprint is long as I can.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:05 PM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
>>>> 
>>>> A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always telling 
>>>> me
>>>> how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I always
>>>> reply, "Good for you."
>>>> 
>>>> Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door 
>>>> opener
>>>> which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his home.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so late, I
>>>> feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
>>>> complaining that he could not get into his garage using his iPhone because
>>>> Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his motorcycle helmet as 
>>>> his
>>>> bike approached.  He said, to his dismay, even when he took his helmet off,
>>>> the phone would not recognize him in the dark.  
>>>> 
>>>> I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have not
>>>> spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to vent to
>>>> someone who would care either one way or the other.  
>>>> 
>>>> What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so confident 
>>>> in
>>>> Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase a remote control
>>>> for the garage door system.
>>>> 
>>>> He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
>>>> (smile)
>>>> 
>>>> He sent me a text, today, telling me that he purchased a remote control for
>>>> the opener.
>>>> 
>>>> Just another great Face ID failure story, I can't get enough of them,  (Big
>>>> Smile).
>>>> 
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
>>>> 
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