I think being dressed properly if you are part of a group video call or use services like Be My Eyes should go without saying whether you are a male or female and whether you have a perfect body or not.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Cristobal Munoz Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 8:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Apple iOS 12.1 Release Has A Nasty Surprise, Forbes Um yeah… I don’t need to be seeing anyone’s hairy nipples or pecks or tummy fluff. I am in shape. I work out. Still, I don’t want to see your hairy pits and I’m sure you don’t want to see mine. I make sure if I use one of those services like BeMyEyes or if it’s anyone other than perhaps my wife, to put a shirt on. On Oct 29, 2018, at 7:35 PM, Kelly Pierce <[email protected]> wrote: > > I feel it is kind of a novelty, but I am blind. I have been part of > group video chats before. In the summer, I am shirtless at home > because I rarely use air conditioning. Some found this off putting. > also, I may be traveling and connect to these forums wearing > headphones and the phone in my pocket. I then need to explain I am in > transit on mobile with the phone in my pocket for hands free mobility. > the popularity of voice only conference calls remains high. People can > call in from anywhere from any device and not worry what they are > wearing if nothing at all. > > Kelly <div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br /> <table > style="border-top: 1px solid #D3D4DE;"> > <tr> > <td style="width: 55px; padding-top: 13px;"><a > href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon"; > target="_blank"><img > src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif"; > alt="" width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;" > /></a></td> > <td style="width: 470px; padding-top: 12px; color: #41424e; > font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; > line-height: 18px;">Virus-free. <a > href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link"; > target="_blank" style="color: #4453ea;">www.avast.com</a> > </td> > </tr> > </table><a href="#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" width="1" > height="1"></a></div> > >> On 10/29/18, Mr. Ed <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Mary, >> Now Mary my response to you was not to harm you in any way but just >> to get you to think and try things before you give responses. Like >> Sieghard stated some people are going to have a problem with any type of >> device or software. >> So please do not take my response to harm you in any way but if it >> did I apologize. >> Have a nice day. >> Mr. Ed >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Mary Otten >> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 10:13 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Apple iOS 12.1 Release Has A Nasty Surprise, Forbes >> >> Hi Ed, >> I would still rather have the home button. But Apple doesn’t see it >> that way. So, I feel very fortunate that the Face ID with the >> attention mode enabled is working for me. That doesn’t negate my >> concerns about it for those for whom it does not work at all or very >> well. And I have seen blind people having problems. Or I should say, >> I have heard of. People who are having problems with it. If you think >> that is talking out of both sides of my mouth, well I think that is a >> problem with your perceptions. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 29, 2018, at 8:03 AM, Mr. Ed <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Mary, >>> I remember back a few months ago you were complaining about not >>> having a home button on the new iPhones. Also you complained >>> adamantly about the face ID on numerous emails. Then today or >>> yesterday you said the face ID was working very well on your new >>> iPhone. You seem to talk out of both sides of your mouth. LOL Have a >>> good day. >>> Mr. Ed >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel >>> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 11:28 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Apple iOS 12.1 Release Has A Nasty Surprise, Forbes >>> >>> Mary, >>> >>> New versions of iOS often did not offer the full feature set to >>> older devices and in some cases if hardware constraints make this >>> impossible then that is just how it is. If Apple decides to do this >>> deliberately then it's a different story, but if that is what they >>> do then that is what they do. It is their hardware and while you >>> bought it it's definitely their software which they make available >>> for free and under their license terms so they can do what they want. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >>> Of Mary Otten >>> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 9:18 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Apple iOS 12.1 Release Has A Nasty Surprise, Forbes >>> >>> Yes. Sure. So it’s OK for phones to be issued now that have last >>> year‘s operating system and that’s no big deal. But it’s a problem >>> when Apple’s newest operating system doesn’t have every feature >>> available to older phones. Right. Bull nuts. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Oct 28, 2018, at 9:13 PM, Christopher Chaltain >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The carriers are in the loop, but they're by no means the only >>>> culprit here. Google pushes out new versions of Android, the >>>> manufacturers need to pick up these new versions and fold them into >>>> their own code bases and test them on their own devices and then >>>> turn around and make this available to the carriers for them to do >>>> something similar. This does take longer, but Google, the >>>> manufacturers and the carriers could all do more to make this >>>> process happen more quickly. Google has helped with Project Treble, >>>> where the hardware enablement piece is separate from the rest of >>>> the operating system, but manufacturers and carriers also add their >>>> own skins. Google also makes the new versions of the operating >>>> system available early to the manufacturers, but Google is also >>>> pushing out fixes to this code right up until it's officially >>>> released, causing the manufacturers and carriers to start over >>>> again, although with less and less effort each time. Note that this >>>> is for major versions of Android and not security patches, which get out >>>> to devices much more timely. >>>> >>>> >>>> The entire Android ecosystem needs to address the issue with >>>> fragmentation, ongoing support of older devices and getting updates >>>> out to all devices more quickly. Fragmentation is a two edged sword though. >>>> Having multiple manufacturers involved and a more open ecosystem >>>> does has it's advantages, such as cheaper devices, more form >>>> factors and a greater degree of customization. IMHO, each ecosystem >>>> has their own advantages and disadvantages, and it's good that as >>>> blind consumers, we have accessible choices. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 10/28/18 10:54 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>>>> Not sure if it's so much that Android takes longer, in many cases >>>>> people who buy an Android device never get updates but to a large >>>>> degree that maybe the fault of the carriers. Apple has made it a >>>>> condition from day >>>>> 1 of the iPhone that they would have control over updates and they >>>>> completely cut carriers out from that. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On >>>>> Behalf Of lenron brown >>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 6:18 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: Apple iOS 12.1 Release Has A Nasty Surprise, Forbes >>>>> >>>>> Everyone knows that android takes a bit longer to get updates. >>>>> Considering the fact that there are many different makers of >>>>> devices and stuff. Apple is one company remember? Anyways I am >>>>> sure many will be ok with just audio calls. >>>>> >>>>>> On 10/28/18, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Major Jan. I thought apple said at the beginning that this >>>>>> feature wouldn’t be available for all of the phones that could run the >>>>>> OS. >>>>>> Where is Forbes magazine when it comes to the fact that after >>>>>> three months, the latest android system doesn’t even make the >>>>>> graph of Andrea installs according to Andrea police? I guess >>>>>> that’s not a calamity. The fact that an android system several >>>>>> years old has more install base then the latest and greatest >>>>>> after three months isn’t a calamity. Forbes just isn’t worth >>>>>> posting anywhere. They don’t like apple and that’s fine. But who cares? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 28, 2018, at 5:34 PM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Apple iOS 12.1 Release Has A Nasty Surprise By Gordon Kelly7:20 >>>>>>> pm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> While iOS 12 was filled with great secret features, it also >>>>>>> contained some significant bugs - including a particularly >>>>>>> embarrassing one which carried over to iOS 12.0.1. Now Apple has >>>>>>> its first major update ready - iOS 12.1 >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> but a nasty surprise hides behind its biggest new feature. >>>>>>> Apple iOS 12.1 brings the highly anticipated launch of Group >>>>>>> FaceTime video calls. Initially promised for iOS 12, the feature >>>>>>> was pushed back to this release. But Apple's small print reveals >>>>>>> the sad reality is millions of iPhone and iPad owners will never >>>>>>> be able to use it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Apple iOS 12Apple >>>>>>> Spotted by 9to5Mac, Apple's user guide for iOS 12.1 states that >>>>>>> Group FaceTime will not be coming to many iOS 12-compatible >>>>>>> iPhones and iPads. >>>>>>> Missing out are the iPhone 5S, iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, iPad >>>>>>> Air, iPad Mini 2, iPad Mini 3, iPad Mini 4 and 6th generation >>>>>>> iPod Touch. >>>>>>> Yes, that's a lot of excluded devices. But why? >>>>>>> Apple doesn't spell it out, but the answer appears to be performance. >>>>>>> Group >>>>>>> FaceTime video calls are processor intensive and no devices >>>>>>> running an A8 chipset or earlier are compatible. The A8X chipset >>>>>>> on the iPad Air 2, however, just scrapes in. Notably, the >>>>>>> A9-powered iPhone SE also works fine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But there is some compensation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Group FaceTime in iOS 12.1 has limited iPhone and iPad >>>>>>> supportApple Apple has confirmed iPhone 5S, iPhone 6 and iPhone >>>>>>> 6 Plus owners will get support for audio-only Group FaceTime >>>>>>> calls. Calling this 'FaceTime' >>>>>>> without >>>>>>> any faces is probably a stretch, but it's better than nothing. >>>>>>> That said, I expect there will be a lot of angry iPhone and iPad >>>>>>> users feeling shortchanged once Apple releases iOS 12.1 >>>>>>> (expected next week). >>>>>>> There will also be blowback since Apple hasn't widely notified >>>>>>> users that, even if they have a compatible iPhone or iPad, Group >>>>>>> FaceTime will be geographically limited at launch. No details >>>>>>> are known at this time, but Apple should reveal the rollout at >>>>>>> its upcoming iPad event. >>>>>>> In the company's defence, Apple's long-term support for its >>>>>>> devices is unparalleled. But excluding all these models from >>>>>>> Group FaceTime video calls (when surely lower resolution calls >>>>>>> were an option) seems to be a hint Apple would like owners of >>>>>>> these older iPhones and iPads to upgrade. >>>>>>> Certainly, on the face of it, the iPhone XR may need a little help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Original Article at: >>>>>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/10/27/apple-ios-12 >>>>>>> -1- release-g roup-facetime-iphone-ipad-upgrade/#216ce6ac5f8a >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V >>>>>>> iPhone list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, >>>>>>> please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than >>>>>>> posting on the list itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>>>>> [email protected]. 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