I feel it is kind of a novelty, but I am blind. I have been part of
group video chats before. In the summer, I am shirtless at home
because I rarely use air conditioning. Some found this off putting.
also, I may be traveling and connect to these forums wearing
headphones and the phone in my pocket. I then need to explain I am in
transit on mobile with the phone in my pocket for hands free mobility.
the popularity of voice only conference calls remains high. People can
call in from anywhere from any device and not worry what they are
wearing if nothing at all.
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On 10/29/18, Mr. Ed <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Mary,
> Now Mary my response to you was not to harm you in any way but just to get
> you to think and try things before you give responses. Like Sieghard stated
> some people are going to have a problem with any type of device or software.
> So please do not take my response to harm you in any way but if it did I
> apologize.
> Have a nice day.
> Mr. Ed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 10:13 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Apple iOS 12.1 Release Has A Nasty Surprise, Forbes
>
> Hi Ed,
> I would still rather have the home button. But Apple doesn’t see it that
> way. So, I feel very fortunate that the Face ID with the attention mode
> enabled is working for me. That doesn’t negate my concerns about it for
> those for whom it does not work at all or very well. And I have seen blind
> people having problems. Or I should say, I have heard of. People who are
> having problems with it. If you think that is talking out of both sides of
> my mouth, well I think that is a problem with your perceptions.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 29, 2018, at 8:03 AM, Mr. Ed <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mary,
>> I remember back a few months ago you were complaining about not having a
>> home button on the new iPhones. Also you complained adamantly about the
>> face ID on numerous emails. Then today or yesterday you said the face ID
>> was working very well on your new iPhone. You seem to talk out of both
>> sides of your mouth. LOL
>> Have a good day.
>> Mr. Ed
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 11:28 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Apple iOS 12.1 Release Has A Nasty Surprise, Forbes
>>
>> Mary,
>>
>> New versions of iOS often did not offer the full feature set to older
>> devices and in some cases if hardware constraints make this impossible
>> then that is just how it is. If Apple decides to do this deliberately then
>> it's a different story, but if that is what they do then that is what they
>> do. It is their hardware and while you bought it it's definitely their
>> software which they make available for free and under their license terms
>> so they can do what they want.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 9:18 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Apple iOS 12.1 Release Has A Nasty Surprise, Forbes
>>
>> Yes. Sure. So it’s OK for phones to be issued now that have last year‘s
>> operating system and that’s no big deal. But it’s a problem when Apple’s
>> newest operating system doesn’t have every feature available to older
>> phones. Right. Bull nuts.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 28, 2018, at 9:13 PM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The carriers are in the loop, but they're by no means the only culprit
>>> here. Google pushes out new versions of Android, the manufacturers need
>>> to pick up these new versions and fold them into their own code bases and
>>> test them on their own devices and then turn around and make this
>>> available to the carriers for them to do something similar. This does
>>> take longer, but Google, the manufacturers and the carriers could all do
>>> more to make this process happen more quickly. Google has helped with
>>> Project Treble, where the hardware enablement piece is separate from the
>>> rest of the operating system, but manufacturers and carriers also add
>>> their own skins. Google also makes the new versions of the operating
>>> system available early to the manufacturers, but Google is also pushing
>>> out fixes to this code right up until it's officially released, causing
>>> the manufacturers and carriers to start over again, although with less
>>> and less effort each time. Note that this is for major versions of
>>> Android and not security patches, which get out to devices much more
>>> timely.
>>>
>>>
>>> The entire Android ecosystem needs to address the issue with
>>> fragmentation, ongoing support of older devices and getting updates out
>>> to all devices more quickly. Fragmentation is a two edged sword though.
>>> Having multiple manufacturers involved and a more open ecosystem does has
>>> it's advantages, such as cheaper devices, more form factors and a greater
>>> degree of customization. IMHO, each ecosystem has their own advantages
>>> and disadvantages, and it's good that as blind consumers, we have
>>> accessible choices.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 10/28/18 10:54 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>>> Not sure if it's so much that Android takes longer, in many cases people
>>>> who buy an Android device never get updates but to a large degree that
>>>> maybe the fault of the carriers. Apple has made it a condition from day
>>>> 1 of the iPhone that they would have control over updates and they
>>>> completely cut carriers out from that.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf
>>>> Of lenron brown
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 6:18 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: Apple iOS 12.1 Release Has A Nasty Surprise, Forbes
>>>>
>>>> Everyone knows that android takes a bit longer to get updates.
>>>> Considering the fact that there are many different makers of devices
>>>> and stuff. Apple is one company remember? Anyways I am sure many will
>>>> be ok with just audio calls.
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/28/18, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Major Jan. I thought apple said at the beginning that this feature
>>>>> wouldn’t be available for all of the phones that could run the OS.
>>>>> Where is Forbes magazine when it comes to the fact that after three
>>>>> months, the latest android system doesn’t even make the graph of
>>>>> Andrea installs according to Andrea police? I guess that’s not a
>>>>> calamity. The fact that an android system several years old has more
>>>>> install base then the latest and greatest after three months isn’t a
>>>>> calamity. Forbes just isn’t worth posting anywhere. They don’t like
>>>>> apple and that’s fine. But who cares?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 28, 2018, at 5:34 PM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apple iOS 12.1 Release Has A Nasty Surprise By Gordon Kelly7:20 pm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While iOS 12 was filled with great secret features, it also
>>>>>> contained some significant bugs - including a particularly
>>>>>> embarrassing one which carried over to iOS 12.0.1. Now Apple has
>>>>>> its first major update ready - iOS 12.1
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> but a nasty surprise hides behind its biggest new feature.
>>>>>> Apple iOS 12.1 brings the highly anticipated launch of Group
>>>>>> FaceTime video calls. Initially promised for iOS 12, the feature
>>>>>> was pushed back to this release. But Apple's small print reveals
>>>>>> the sad reality is millions of iPhone and iPad owners will never be
>>>>>> able to use it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apple iOS 12Apple
>>>>>> Spotted by 9to5Mac, Apple's user guide for iOS 12.1 states that
>>>>>> Group FaceTime will not be coming to many iOS 12-compatible iPhones
>>>>>> and iPads.
>>>>>> Missing out are the iPhone 5S, iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, iPad Air,
>>>>>> iPad Mini 2, iPad Mini 3, iPad Mini 4 and 6th generation iPod
>>>>>> Touch.
>>>>>> Yes, that's a lot of excluded devices. But why?
>>>>>> Apple doesn't spell it out, but the answer appears to be performance.
>>>>>> Group
>>>>>> FaceTime video calls are processor intensive and no devices running
>>>>>> an A8 chipset or earlier are compatible. The A8X chipset on the
>>>>>> iPad Air 2, however, just scrapes in. Notably, the A9-powered
>>>>>> iPhone SE also works fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But there is some compensation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Group FaceTime in iOS 12.1 has limited iPhone and iPad supportApple
>>>>>> Apple has confirmed iPhone 5S, iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus owners
>>>>>> will get support for audio-only Group FaceTime calls. Calling this
>>>>>> 'FaceTime'
>>>>>> without
>>>>>> any faces is probably a stretch, but it's better than nothing.
>>>>>> That said, I expect there will be a lot of angry iPhone and iPad
>>>>>> users feeling shortchanged once Apple releases iOS 12.1 (expected next
>>>>>> week).
>>>>>> There will also be blowback since Apple hasn't widely notified
>>>>>> users that, even if they have a compatible iPhone or iPad, Group
>>>>>> FaceTime will be geographically limited at launch. No details are
>>>>>> known at this time, but Apple should reveal the rollout at its
>>>>>> upcoming iPad event.
>>>>>> In the company's defence, Apple's long-term support for its devices
>>>>>> is unparalleled. But excluding all these models from Group FaceTime
>>>>>> video calls (when surely lower resolution calls were an option)
>>>>>> seems to be a hint Apple would like owners of these older iPhones
>>>>>> and iPads to upgrade.
>>>>>> Certainly, on the face of it, the iPhone XR may need a little help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Original Article at:
>>>>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/10/27/apple-ios-12-1-
>>>>>> release-g roup-facetime-iphone-ipad-upgrade/#216ce6ac5f8a
>>>>>>
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