I know someone who can’t get it to work reliably; she says that after 3 PM it doesn’t work in her home at all which surprises me as I thought it was supposed to work in the dark. I’d like clarification on that as I’ll be getting a phone with faceID fairly soon I think.
All the best Angie > On 29 Oct 2018, at 15:23, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mary, I also have heard from people who can't get Touch Id to work for the > life of them. There will always be somebody for whom something won't work or > something they don't like. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mary > Otten > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 8:13 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Apple iOS 12.1 Release Has A Nasty Surprise, Forbes > > Hi Ed, > I would still rather have the home button. But Apple doesn’t see it that way. > So, I feel very fortunate that the Face ID with the attention mode enabled is > working for me. That doesn’t negate my concerns about it for those for whom > it does not work at all or very well. And I have seen blind people having > problems. Or I should say, I have heard of. People who are having problems > with it. If you think that is talking out of both sides of my mouth, well I > think that is a problem with your perceptions. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 29, 2018, at 8:03 AM, Mr. Ed <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Mary, >> I remember back a few months ago you were complaining about not having a >> home button on the new iPhones. Also you complained adamantly about the face >> ID on numerous emails. Then today or yesterday you said the face ID was >> working very well on your new iPhone. You seem to talk out of both sides of >> your mouth. LOL >> Have a good day. >> Mr. Ed >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 11:28 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Apple iOS 12.1 Release Has A Nasty Surprise, Forbes >> >> Mary, >> >> New versions of iOS often did not offer the full feature set to older >> devices and in some cases if hardware constraints make this impossible then >> that is just how it is. If Apple decides to do this deliberately then it's a >> different story, but if that is what they do then that is what they do. It >> is their hardware and while you bought it it's definitely their software >> which they make available for free and under their license terms so they can >> do what they want. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mary >> Otten >> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 9:18 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Apple iOS 12.1 Release Has A Nasty Surprise, Forbes >> >> Yes. Sure. So it’s OK for phones to be issued now that have last year‘s >> operating system and that’s no big deal. But it’s a problem when Apple’s >> newest operating system doesn’t have every feature available to older >> phones. Right. Bull nuts. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 28, 2018, at 9:13 PM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> The carriers are in the loop, but they're by no means the only culprit >>> here. Google pushes out new versions of Android, the manufacturers need to >>> pick up these new versions and fold them into their own code bases and test >>> them on their own devices and then turn around and make this available to >>> the carriers for them to do something similar. This does take longer, but >>> Google, the manufacturers and the carriers could all do more to make this >>> process happen more quickly. Google has helped with Project Treble, where >>> the hardware enablement piece is separate from the rest of the operating >>> system, but manufacturers and carriers also add their own skins. Google >>> also makes the new versions of the operating system available early to the >>> manufacturers, but Google is also pushing out fixes to this code right up >>> until it's officially released, causing the manufacturers and carriers to >>> start over again, although with less and less effort each time. Note that >>> this is for major versions of Android and not security patches, which get >>> out to devices much more timely. >>> >>> >>> The entire Android ecosystem needs to address the issue with fragmentation, >>> ongoing support of older devices and getting updates out to all devices >>> more quickly. Fragmentation is a two edged sword though. Having multiple >>> manufacturers involved and a more open ecosystem does has it's advantages, >>> such as cheaper devices, more form factors and a greater degree of >>> customization. IMHO, each ecosystem has their own advantages and >>> disadvantages, and it's good that as blind consumers, we have accessible >>> choices. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 10/28/18 10:54 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>>> Not sure if it's so much that Android takes longer, in many cases people >>>> who buy an Android device never get updates but to a large degree that >>>> maybe the fault of the carriers. Apple has made it a condition from day 1 >>>> of the iPhone that they would have control over updates and they >>>> completely cut carriers out from that. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >>>> Of lenron brown >>>> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 6:18 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: Apple iOS 12.1 Release Has A Nasty Surprise, Forbes >>>> >>>> Everyone knows that android takes a bit longer to get updates. >>>> Considering the fact that there are many different makers of devices >>>> and stuff. Apple is one company remember? Anyways I am sure many will >>>> be ok with just audio calls. >>>> >>>>> On 10/28/18, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Major Jan. I thought apple said at the beginning that this feature >>>>> wouldn’t be available for all of the phones that could run the OS. >>>>> Where is Forbes magazine when it comes to the fact that after three >>>>> months, the latest android system doesn’t even make the graph of >>>>> Andrea installs according to Andrea police? I guess that’s not a >>>>> calamity. The fact that an android system several years old has more >>>>> install base then the latest and greatest after three months isn’t a >>>>> calamity. Forbes just isn’t worth posting anywhere. They don’t like apple >>>>> and that’s fine. But who cares? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 28, 2018, at 5:34 PM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Apple iOS 12.1 Release Has A Nasty Surprise By Gordon Kelly7:20 pm >>>>>> >>>>>> While iOS 12 was filled with great secret features, it also >>>>>> contained some significant bugs - including a particularly >>>>>> embarrassing one which carried over to iOS 12.0.1. Now Apple has >>>>>> its first major update ready - iOS 12.1 >>>>>> - >>>>>> but a nasty surprise hides behind its biggest new feature. >>>>>> Apple iOS 12.1 brings the highly anticipated launch of Group >>>>>> FaceTime video calls. Initially promised for iOS 12, the feature >>>>>> was pushed back to this release. But Apple's small print reveals >>>>>> the sad reality is millions of iPhone and iPad owners will never be >>>>>> able to use it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Apple iOS 12Apple >>>>>> Spotted by 9to5Mac, Apple's user guide for iOS 12.1 states that >>>>>> Group FaceTime will not be coming to many iOS 12-compatible iPhones and >>>>>> iPads. >>>>>> Missing out are the iPhone 5S, iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, iPad Air, >>>>>> iPad Mini 2, iPad Mini 3, iPad Mini 4 and 6th generation iPod >>>>>> Touch. >>>>>> Yes, that's a lot of excluded devices. But why? >>>>>> Apple doesn't spell it out, but the answer appears to be performance. >>>>>> Group >>>>>> FaceTime video calls are processor intensive and no devices running >>>>>> an A8 chipset or earlier are compatible. The A8X chipset on the >>>>>> iPad Air 2, however, just scrapes in. Notably, the A9-powered >>>>>> iPhone SE also works fine. >>>>>> >>>>>> But there is some compensation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Group FaceTime in iOS 12.1 has limited iPhone and iPad supportApple >>>>>> Apple has confirmed iPhone 5S, iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus owners >>>>>> will get support for audio-only Group FaceTime calls. Calling this >>>>>> 'FaceTime' >>>>>> without >>>>>> any faces is probably a stretch, but it's better than nothing. >>>>>> That said, I expect there will be a lot of angry iPhone and iPad >>>>>> users feeling shortchanged once Apple releases iOS 12.1 (expected next >>>>>> week). >>>>>> There will also be blowback since Apple hasn't widely notified >>>>>> users that, even if they have a compatible iPhone or iPad, Group >>>>>> FaceTime will be geographically limited at launch. No details are >>>>>> known at this time, but Apple should reveal the rollout at its >>>>>> upcoming iPad event. >>>>>> In the company's defence, Apple's long-term support for its devices >>>>>> is unparalleled. But excluding all these models from Group FaceTime >>>>>> video calls (when surely lower resolution calls were an option) >>>>>> seems to be a hint Apple would like owners of these older iPhones >>>>>> and iPads to upgrade. >>>>>> Certainly, on the face of it, the iPhone XR may need a little help. >>>>>> >>>>>> Original Article at: >>>>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/10/27/apple-ios-12-1- >>>>>> release-g roup-facetime-iphone-ipad-upgrade/#216ce6ac5f8a >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V >>>>>> iPhone list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>>>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the >>>>>> list itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>>>> [email protected]. 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