I agree with you 100 percent on this Sieghard. Well said. Mr. Ed -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 1:06 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: An Aira Update
I agree that Aira while having come up at various times before is certainly not in everybody's face all the time. If you, Andy, are subscribe to so many lists and Podcasts where it is discussed you obviously have a great deal of spare time for all this. I can hardly keep up with the Viphone, Jaws and Windows 10 groups which I am subscribed to and rarely do I hear about Aira. In fact, it's on my list of things to do to find out more about what Aira is offering in Canada. I certainly did not consider Jonathan's post inappropriate in any way and find it regrettable that Mark apparently judged it to be so. I don't think in a case like Aira you can separate the app from the service. There are many examples on this list where services are discussed. People ask questions about Apple Music or Netflix and not always is the question strictly about the Music app or the Netflix app but about the service in general and I therefore wonder what makes Aira so different. There have been lengthy discussions here about the services and phone plans offered by various US cell phone providers where I am pretty sure Mark has participated or even initiated the topic and that is hardly only iPhone related. But of course groups like Viphone are not democracies and Mark is the moderator so I guess his word is the law, but it is unfortunate to loose any future contributions of a member as accomplished and well-regarded as Jonathan. Best regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Janet Bell Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 10:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: An Aira Update if you get so much information about stuff maybe you should look at your own subscriptions. I am glad it has been put up on this list because I have never heard of it and it seems like a good idea to me Janet -----Original Message----- From: Andy Baracco Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 4:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: An Aira Update It's not that jonathan isn't welcome, it the aiRa propaganda. Personally, I'm tired of them always being in my face, i. e. Emails, podcasts, etc. they're not new, and I'm tired of hearing about them. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Otten" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 8:08 PM Subject: Re: An Aira Update I’m not Jonathan, but when the moderator of the list says that such posts are not welcome, what else would you expect? Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 26, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Jewel <[email protected]> wrote: > > Jonathon! Why punish us all just because of the negative reaction of a > very few? > > Jewel > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 3:42 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: An Aira Update > > Hi Mark and everyone. Given this new policy, I'll be unsubscribing after > around 9 years on the > group, but I want to express my disappointment about this change. > During Cara's excellent and even-handed leadership of this group, we had > many occasions where app > developers would engage with us about their apps, especially when those > apps were blindness > specific. > Since this particular app was one that has come up here on multiple > occasions, with some mentioning > it as one of their top apps of 2018, it seemed appropriate, on-topic, and > of value to interested > members to let them know about recent developments, especially a free > trial. This has been welcomed > on other groups. > It's a difficult and false distinction to separate the app from the > service, when the app is the > vehicle for that service. > Further, the service itself would in the past have been considered > on-topic, because one uses it on > an iPhone and it is blindness specific. > Anyway, I've learned a great deal over the last 9 years, so thanks to > everyone for that. > Should you wish to be on a group where app developers and users can freely > interact, you're welcome > to join my BlindPhones list, which covers both iOS and Android. If an app > developer wishes to take > time to engage, they are welcomed with open arms. > [email protected]. > And of course as has been already pointed out in this thread, there's an > Aira group too. > Thanks all. > > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, audiobooks and training > http://www.mosen.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of M. > Taylor > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 2:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: An Aira Update > > I see your point, Andy. Be that as it may, any new service being offered > to our community, is > always appreciated. > > However, and this is to everyone, the iOS app only, is to be discussed on > this list. Any questions > regarding the service, itself, to be taken off-list, immediately. > > Thank you all for observing this policy. > > Moderator Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Andy Baracco > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 3:10 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: An Aira Update > > I didn't know that ads were allowed on this list. > > Andy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James English" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 2:35 PM > Subject: Re: An Aira Update > > >> Hello, >> >> I'm curious. What things can the service not be used for?<div >> id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br /> >> <table style="border-top: 1px solid #D3D4DE;"> >> <tr> >> <td style="width: 55px; padding-top: 13px;"><a >> href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail"; >> target="_blank"><img >> src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif"; >> alt="" width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;" >> /></a></td> >> <td style="width: 470px; padding-top: 12px; color: #41424e; >> font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; >> line-height: 18px;">Virus-free. <a >> href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail"; >> target="_blank" style="color: #4453ea;">www.avast.com</a> >> </td> >> </tr> >> </table><a href="#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" width="1" >> height="1"></a></div> >> >>> On 1/26/19, Jonathan Mosen <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi all. Since the middle of October, I've been Aira's VP of Explorer >>> communications. Since Aira has an iOS app, I thought the following info >>> may >>> be of interest to some. >>> >>> For those not familiar with Aira, we provide real-tine audio description >>> of >>> anything visual, provided by security-vetted, trained professionals. You >>> can >>> use it with your iPhone on its own, or if you perform any tasks where >>> it's >>> useful to have both of your hands free, we offer optional smart glasses. >>> >>> The Aira app is free, and it's free to use in an increasing number of >>> locations, or for an increasing number of tasks. We also offer >>> subscription >>> plans, much like cell phone plans, where you can use it for any task, >>> anywhere. >>> >>> If you've been curious about Aira and have wanted to take it for a spin >>> in >>> your own environment, we've released a free 7-Day Trial of our full paid >>> service. This offer means that anyone with a free account can try >>> anytime >>> access to Aira's professional agents whenever it suits them - just like >>> a >>> paying subscriber. >>> >>> >>> >>> The 7-Day Trial provides 30 minutes to try Aira's service over a period >>> of >>> seven days. Some of that time will be used for setting up account >>> preferences and asking questions about the service, but the majority of >>> that >>> time is free to use for any task. It's a great opportunity for people >>> new >>> to >>> Aira to experience why so many use it as a must-have tool for enhancing >>> everyday life. >>> >>> >>> >>> Got some mail that needs sorting? Need a professional agent to connect >>> to >>> your computer to help with an inaccessible site? Or just want to >>> research >>> nearby restaurants or stores? Well, now you can, as a free user and from >>> the >>> comfort of your home. >>> >>> For all the details including a list of frequently asked questions, head >>> on >>> over to >>> >>> https://aira.io/free-trial >>> >>> Second, Aira has recently released a comprehensive series of training >>> modules available for streaming online, or for download in DAISY and >>> MP3. >>> You can find it at: >>> >>> http://aira.io/training. This is a good way to learn about Aira even if >>> you're not signed up yet but are curious. Because this is such a new >>> class >>> of technology, many people not only want to know how to use Aira, but >>> how >>> it >>> might fit into their toolbox of blindness skills and apps. >>> >>> Finally, we've just launched a podcast, called Airacast. >>> >>> It's packed with news, interviews, tips, tricks, listener comments and >>> more. >>> >>> Subscribe to Airacast now from all the places most people get their >>> podcasts, including iTunes/Apple Podcasts, Google Play Music, Stitcher, >>> TuneIn and more. Spotify is coming soon, iHeart Radio in a couple of >>> months >>> and an Alexa skill will be released eventually. >>> >>> Many people enjoy hearing podcasts through HumanWare's Victor Reader >>> Stream, >>> so of course it's listed there too. >>> >>> Should you wish to enter the RSS feed manually into your podcast client >>> right away, it is: >>> >>> https://airacast.libsyn.com/rss >>> >>> Search for Airacast in your podcast app of choice, or Here's an Apple >>> podcasts link for you. >>> >>> https://itunes.apple.com/nz/podcast/airacast-with-jonathan-mosen/id144988870 >>> 1 >>> >>> All the best. >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>> list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners >>> or >>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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