Hello Mark,
Thanks for your post regarding the recent turbulent post on this group. I do not normally get involved in what I shall call the politics of any list. I have moderated lists in the past and it can be a thankless task as you know only too well. In the hope of giving a balance to recent events I must say this list has been a joy to be a member of over the years as well as being informative. I doubt berry much if I would be as a proficient iPhone user were it not for this list. None of us are perfect and he who has never made a mistake never made anything. I find you to be a reasonable man and list moderator. No doubt others will disagree and criticise me for saying so. If I unsubscribed from every list where I have disagreed with a post or moderator’s action my inbox would be a quiet place. So from one list member who intends remaining as such accept my thanks for a job well done. Malcolm Sent from my iPhone > On 28 Jan 2019, at 19:22, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Sieghard and Everyone, > > You know, from my perspective, regardless of how I respond to this thread, > some will think I am a power-hungry dictator and some will think I am > misguided, and some wil think, …What disappoints me the most is that > apparently no one thinks that I am a regular guy, volunteering each and every > day, to help spread information through our community in an effort to bring > and keep us all on the path of accessibility enlightenment. > > I am a member of other lists of which I am not the moderator. On those > lists, when I have posted articles that the owners declared were not > list-appropriate, it never crossed my mind to withdraw my membership just > because I didn’t like there posting policy as it pertained to my particular > post. > > However, since a response from me appears to be necessary, here it is: > > 1. > I will not apologize for acting in what I believe to be the best interest of > the group. > > 2. > It was not I who suggested that Jonathan or anyone else leave the list. Cara > and I do not make list policies in order to keep or attract members but, > rather, to accommodate the reasonable exchange of information. Sometimes > people like these policies and sometimes they do not but always remember that > they are put in place not to restrict information but to help keep it flowing > in a meaningful direction. > > 3. > Apparently, I did an extremely poor job of attempting to make it clear that > the same posting policies that apply to Nearby Explorer, Seeing Eye GPS, > Blind Square, Alexta, Twitter, etc, apply equally to AIRA, nothing more or > less. Perhaps I jumped the proverbial gun in my reply to Jonathan’s post; > you know creating a storm in a teacup but, even so, some of the vicious > responses to that post have truly surprised me. I have always considered > this community as being part of my extended family so, perhaps you can > appreciate my surprise when I discover that there are those who are willing > to immediately disregard all of the good times, easy-list-exchanges and my > own personal contribution to this community just because they disagree with > one post, perhaps a porely written and unnecessary post, but one post, > nevertheless. Apparently, no one thinks that it would have been nice if > Jonathan, who clearly disagreed with my reply, had contacted me, off-list, in > order to discuss this matter so that I could have better explained or, > possibly, retracted my earlier comment. Apparently, the responsibility was > mine, and mine alone. So be it. > > 4. > I have absolutely no doubt but that if I had insisted that this thread be > closed before everyone had a chance to contribute, it would have only served > to prove to those who are already convinced of my evil-doings that I am truly > an out-of-control power-hungry dictator. Still, if I let the thread > continue, then I clearly don’t care. I trust that you can appreciate my > dilemma. > > Finally, I hope this post makes it clear that I do care about the list and > everyone who chooses to be a part of it. By the very fact that this thread > has been allowed to continue should demonstrate that it is not our goal to > stifle the words of those concerned about any list issues. > > I will kindly ask that this thread be closed because I hope I have settled > the question of how the AIRA product is to be treated, on-list. > > Mark > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 8:32 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: An Aira Update > > Hi Marie, > > I haven't decided yet, but I don't think maturity has anything to do with it, > it comes down to principle. > What really surprises me is that Mark posted what he did and never provided > any further explanation or responded to any of the dozens of posts. He also > didn't close the topic, but he posted two articles which would indicate that > it's not a matter of him not having caught up with the list. I for one would > appreciate a post from him regardless whether it's one where he maintains his > position or one where he clarifies whether he has changed his opinion > regarding this based on what was said. Just ignoring this doesn't help in > making it clear whether in future it is OK to post anything which has to do > with a service rather than directly with what button to tap in an app. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Marie > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 8:10 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: An Aira Update > > I would hope that people like Sieghard and Richard are too mature to leave > the list over a disagreement such as this one. They are both a wonderful > source of assistance on all the uses of our IO devices. > Marie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Maria Reyes > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 10:45 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: An Aira Update > > Hey Carolyn. Me too. I've been here for quite a while and love this list. We > have a lot of resourceful people on list. I would hate to lose them. > > Sent from my Sprint iPhone X!!! > see: [email protected] if you want to talk blind technology!! > >> On Jan 27, 2019, at 8:52 PM, Mr. Ed <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I agree with you 100 percent on this Sieghard. Well said. >> Mr. Ed >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 1:06 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: An Aira Update >> >> I agree that Aira while having come up at various times before is >> certainly not in everybody's face all the time. If you, Andy, are >> subscribe to so many lists and Podcasts where it is discussed you >> obviously have a great deal of spare time for all this. I can hardly >> keep up with the Viphone, Jaws and Windows 10 groups which I am >> subscribed to and rarely do I hear about Aira. In fact, it's on my >> list of things to do to find out more about what Aira is offering in Canada. >> I certainly did not consider Jonathan's post inappropriate in any way >> and find it regrettable that Mark apparently judged it to be so. I >> don't think in a case like Aira you can separate the app from the >> service. There are many examples on this list where services are >> discussed. People ask questions about Apple Music or Netflix and not >> always is the question strictly about the Music app or the Netflix app >> but about the service in general and I therefore wonder what makes >> Aira so different. There have been lengthy discussions here about the >> services and phone plans offered by various US cell phone providers >> where I am pretty sure Mark has participated or even initiated the >> topic and that is hardly only iPhone related. >> But of course groups like Viphone are not democracies and Mark is the >> moderator so I guess his word is the law, but it is unfortunate to >> loose any future contributions of a member as accomplished and >> well-regarded as Jonathan. >> >> Best regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Janet Bell >> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 10:46 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: An Aira Update >> >> if you get so much information about stuff maybe you should look at >> your own subscriptions. I am glad it has been put up on this list >> because I have never heard of it and it seems like a good idea to me >> Janet >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Andy Baracco >> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 4:34 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: An Aira Update >> >> It's not that jonathan isn't welcome, it the aiRa propaganda. >> Personally, I'm tired of them always being in my face, i. e. Emails, >> podcasts, etc. >> they're not new, and I'm tired of hearing about them. >> >> Andy >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mary Otten" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 8:08 PM >> Subject: Re: An Aira Update >> >> >> I’m not Jonathan, but when the moderator of the list says that such >> posts are not welcome, what else would you expect? >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jan 26, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Jewel <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Jonathon! Why punish us all just because of the negative reaction of >>> a very few? >>> >>> Jewel >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 3:42 PM >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Subject: RE: An Aira Update >>> >>> Hi Mark and everyone. Given this new policy, I'll be unsubscribing >>> after around 9 years on the group, but I want to express my >>> disappointment about this change. >>> During Cara's excellent and even-handed leadership of this group, we >>> had many occasions where app developers would engage with us about >>> their apps, especially when those apps were blindness specific. >>> Since this particular app was one that has come up here on multiple >>> occasions, with some mentioning it as one of their top apps of 2018, >>> it seemed appropriate, on-topic, and of value to interested members >>> to let them know about recent developments, especially a free trial. >>> This has been welcomed on other groups. >>> It's a difficult and false distinction to separate the app from the >>> service, when the app is the vehicle for that service. >>> Further, the service itself would in the past have been considered >>> on-topic, because one uses it on an iPhone and it is blindness >>> specific. >>> Anyway, I've learned a great deal over the last 9 years, so thanks to >>> everyone for that. >>> Should you wish to be on a group where app developers and users can >>> freely interact, you're welcome to join my BlindPhones list, which >>> covers both iOS and Android. If an app developer wishes to take time >>> to engage, they are welcomed with open arms. >>> [email protected]. >>> And of course as has been already pointed out in this thread, there's >>> an Aira group too. >>> Thanks all. >>> >>> Jonathan Mosen >>> Mosen Consulting >>> Blindness technology eBooks, audiobooks and training >>> http://www.mosen.org >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of M. >>> Taylor >>> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 2:31 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: An Aira Update >>> >>> I see your point, Andy. Be that as it may, any new service being >>> offered to our community, is always appreciated. >>> >>> However, and this is to everyone, the iOS app only, is to be >>> discussed on this list. Any questions regarding the service, itself, >>> to be taken off-list, immediately. >>> >>> Thank you all for observing this policy. >>> >>> Moderator Mark >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Andy Baracco >>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 3:10 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: An Aira Update >>> >>> I didn't know that ads were allowed on this list. >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "James English" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 2:35 PM >>> Subject: Re: An Aira Update >>> >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I'm curious. What things can the service not be used for?<div >>>> id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br /> <table >>>> style="border-top: 1px solid #D3D4DE;"> <tr> >>>> <td style="width: 55px; padding-top: 13px;"><a >>>> href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail"; >>>> target="_blank"><img >>>> src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif"; >>>> alt="" width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;" >>>> /></a></td> >>>> <td style="width: 470px; padding-top: 12px; color: #41424e; >>>> font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; >>>> line-height: 18px;">Virus-free. <a >>>> href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail"; >>>> target="_blank" style="color: #4453ea;">www.avast.com</a> </td> >>>> </tr> </table><a href="#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" >>>> width="1" >>>> height="1"></a></div> >>>> >>>>> On 1/26/19, Jonathan Mosen <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hi all. Since the middle of October, I've been Aira's VP of >>>>> Explorer communications. Since Aira has an iOS app, I thought the >>>>> following info may be of interest to some. >>>>> >>>>> For those not familiar with Aira, we provide real-tine audio >>>>> description of anything visual, provided by security-vetted, >>>>> trained professionals. >>>>> You >>>>> can >>>>> use it with your iPhone on its own, or if you perform any tasks >>>>> where it's useful to have both of your hands free, we offer >>>>> optional smart glasses. >>>>> >>>>> The Aira app is free, and it's free to use in an increasing number >>>>> of locations, or for an increasing number of tasks. We also offer >>>>> subscription plans, much like cell phone plans, where you can use >>>>> it for any task, anywhere. >>>>> >>>>> If you've been curious about Aira and have wanted to take it for a >>>>> spin in your own environment, we've released a free 7-Day Trial of >>>>> our full paid service. This offer means that anyone with a free >>>>> account can try anytime access to Aira's professional agents >>>>> whenever it suits them - just like a paying subscriber. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The 7-Day Trial provides 30 minutes to try Aira's service over a >>>>> period of seven days. Some of that time will be used for setting up >>>>> account preferences and asking questions about the service, but the >>>>> majority of that time is free to use for any task. It's a great >>>>> opportunity for people new to Aira to experience why so many use it >>>>> as a must-have tool for enhancing everyday life. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Got some mail that needs sorting? Need a professional agent to >>>>> connect to your computer to help with an inaccessible site? Or just >>>>> want to research nearby restaurants or stores? Well, now you can, >>>>> as a free user and from the comfort of your home. >>>>> >>>>> For all the details including a list of frequently asked questions, >>>>> head on over to >>>>> >>>>> https://aira.io/free-trial >>>>> >>>>> Second, Aira has recently released a comprehensive series of >>>>> training modules available for streaming online, or for download in >>>>> DAISY and MP3. >>>>> You can find it at: >>>>> >>>>> http://aira.io/training. This is a good way to learn about Aira >>>>> even if you're not signed up yet but are curious. Because this is >>>>> such a new class of technology, many people not only want to know >>>>> how to use Aira, but how it might fit into their toolbox of >>>>> blindness skills and apps. >>>>> >>>>> Finally, we've just launched a podcast, called Airacast. >>>>> >>>>> It's packed with news, interviews, tips, tricks, listener comments >>>>> and more. >>>>> >>>>> Subscribe to Airacast now from all the places most people get their >>>>> podcasts, including iTunes/Apple Podcasts, Google Play Music, >>>>> Stitcher, TuneIn and more. Spotify is coming soon, iHeart Radio in >>>>> a couple of months and an Alexa skill will be released eventually. >>>>> >>>>> Many people enjoy hearing podcasts through HumanWare's Victor >>>>> Reader Stream, so of course it's listed there too. >>>>> >>>>> Should you wish to enter the RSS feed manually into your podcast >>>>> client right away, it is: >>>>> >>>>> https://airacast.libsyn.com/rss >>>>> >>>>> Search for Airacast in your podcast app of choice, or Here's an >>>>> Apple podcasts link for you. >>>>> >>>>> https://itunes.apple.com/nz/podcast/airacast-with-jonathan-mosen/id >>>>> 144988870 >>>>> 1 >>>>> >>>>> All the best. >>>>> >>>>> Jonathan >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V >>>>> iPhone list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on >>>>> the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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