Man, while ago, my sighted husband wanted some help with his Android. Poor guy, 
I tried to help from what I know with iPhone, but I think he ended up figuring 
out what he needed, after accidentally calling his nephew. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Worrell
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 12:48 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Ending a call with Siri?

Hello,

You have to turn off the double click side/lock button in settings. 

Then it works without any issues.

Ed

> On Jun 12, 2019, at 10:05 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> I think that used to work on some of the older phones, but it does not now, 
> you say there is no reason why it shouldn't work, but then again there really 
> is no reason why it should if Apple doesn't set it up this way.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Ed Worrell
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 9:18 AM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Ending a call with Siri?
> 
> I remember seeing somewhere that you can double press the lock button and it 
> will hang up a phone call. I believe it works with VoiceOver. There is no 
> reason why it shouldn’t work.
> 
> Ed W.
> 
> 
>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 10:01 AM, regina alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> This is an interesting and timely problem. I have a friend who got her 
>> screen curtain on but could not do the three finger triple tap to get it 
>> off. I know this was anxiety and perhaps a little frustration mixed in 
>> because when she put down the phone overnight just like that the next 
>> morning she tried on a whim and it went off. However, during the time she 
>> was having trouble because she had put on assisted touch I began trying to 
>> figure out how to make a new gesture for her in assistive touch. When I 
>> called Apple Accessibility about the problem,after I failed myself to help, 
>> they told me assistive touch is not hooked (wrong word, but not sure what 
>> the word is, to VO. It didn't make sense to me because people who are blind 
>> sometimes have difficulty with their hands just like sighted people. They 
>> told me there was no way to help the situation, but when I pointed out the 
>> problem she said she would absolutely put the problem of assistive touch to 
>> the engineers. So, no way of knowing if there may be a solution, but at 
>> least they are looking into it. The rotor and the twist is another really 
>> hard gesture to do for people with bad hands, shaking or wrist problems. I 
>> myself can do it, but I cannot turn back. I have to go completely through my 
>> rotor settings after using one to find a previous one. No understanding of 
>> why. My wrist just won't go left. Anyway, if they work on this problem and 
>> hook the answer to VO I think it can only make the iPhone experience even 
>> better for more people.
>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Switch controls do not work with VoiceOver, so that option is out.
>> If you cannot double tap with two fingers because of a tremor disorder, 
>> maybe kissing the phone twice is a good way to go.
>> Maybe, just maybe, with iOS 13 Apple will finally allow switch controls with 
>> VoiceOver.
>> I've complained about this from day one as some of our clients cannot use 
>> iPhones because of tremors and switch controls are out because they also 
>> have to have VoiceOver.
>> The old between a rock and a hard place.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com “The Hitch Hiker's Guide 
>> to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an 
>> art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
>> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>> 
>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they 
>> don't have any." -- Alice Walker
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 8:09 AM, Marie <magpie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> This might be a case where the user would benefit more from the Choice 
>>> commands rather than voiceover. I would look into that possibility for the 
>>> future. For now, I can’t see a solution.
>>> 
>>> From: Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 5:54 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Ending a call with Siri?
>>> 
>>> Pushing the sleep power button does not hang up the phone. I just confirmed 
>>> that by calling my office and when the answering machine answered, pressing 
>>> the power button did nothing.
>>> It would appear that either touching the end call button with one finger 
>>> and double tapping, or using the two finger double tap are the only ways to 
>>> hang up the call if VoiceOver is on.
>>> 
>>> I am fairly sure Siri cannot help here.
>>> This would be a good thing to point out to Apple, both through Apple 
>>> Accessibility and through the feedback form on their web site.
>>> Given their plans to make iOS 13 more useable for people with physical 
>>> disabilities maybe they could do something about this.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com “The Hitch Hiker's Guide 
>>> to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an 
>>> art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
>>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
>>> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>> 
>>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they 
>>> don't have any." -- Alice Walker
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 5:41 AM, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Could be wrong, but doesn't hitting the sleep / power button hang up a 
>>>> call?
>>>> 
>>>> Chris
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 8:20 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m helping a lady with very little sight and Parkinson’s: she struggles 
>>>>> to tap or swipe, so I set up her iphone 7 with VoiceOver on, no passcode, 
>>>>> raise to wake on and iPhone set to automatically answer calls after 5 
>>>>> seconds and she can use Hey Siri to make calls. What she’s just found is 
>>>>> that, if the number she calls goes onto voicemail, she has no way to end 
>>>>> the call! She can manage to single click or hold down the Home button, 
>>>>> but the two-fingerdouble-tap is too hard. I hadn’t realised that it is 
>>>>> impossible to summon Siri during a phone call. Does anyone know how she 
>>>>> might end a phone call?
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Harry
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