I don’t know much about the device, but with the Rivo be helpful in a situation 
like this? 

Traci 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 13, 2019, at 3:28 PM, Carolyn Arnold <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> We talked about that today. I think we got the fifty dollars worth out of the 
> little white LG, but, he loves his iPad Pro. I think he'd like an iPhone 
> better, and things that I know how to do like edit a contact, I could surely 
> tell him. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Mr. Ed
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 4:02 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Ending a call with Siri?
> 
> Hi Carolyn,
> Tell your husband to get a real phone and get an iPhone.
> Mr. Ed
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 2:35 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Ending a call with Siri?
> 
> Man, while ago, my sighted husband wanted some help with his Android. Poor 
> guy, I tried to help from what I know with iPhone, but I think he ended up 
> figuring out what he needed, after accidentally calling his nephew. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Ed Worrell
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 12:48 PM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Ending a call with Siri?
> 
> Hello,
> 
> You have to turn off the double click side/lock button in settings. 
> 
> Then it works without any issues.
> 
> Ed
> 
>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 10:05 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I think that used to work on some of the older phones, but it does not now, 
>> you say there is no reason why it shouldn't work, but then again there 
>> really is no reason why it should if Apple doesn't set it up this way.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
>> Ed Worrell
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 9:18 AM
>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: Ending a call with Siri?
>> 
>> I remember seeing somewhere that you can double press the lock button and it 
>> will hang up a phone call. I believe it works with VoiceOver. There is no 
>> reason why it shouldn’t work.
>> 
>> Ed W.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 10:01 AM, regina alvarado <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is an interesting and timely problem. I have a friend who got her 
>>> screen curtain on but could not do the three finger triple tap to get it 
>>> off. I know this was anxiety and perhaps a little frustration mixed in 
>>> because when she put down the phone overnight just like that the next 
>>> morning she tried on a whim and it went off. However, during the time she 
>>> was having trouble because she had put on assisted touch I began trying to 
>>> figure out how to make a new gesture for her in assistive touch. When I 
>>> called Apple Accessibility about the problem,after I failed myself to help, 
>>> they told me assistive touch is not hooked (wrong word, but not sure what 
>>> the word is, to VO. It didn't make sense to me because people who are blind 
>>> sometimes have difficulty with their hands just like sighted people. They 
>>> told me there was no way to help the situation, but when I pointed out the 
>>> problem she said she would absolutely put the problem of assistive touch to 
>>> the engineers. So, no way of knowing if there may be a solution, but at 
>>> least they are looking into it. The rotor and the twist is another really 
>>> hard gesture to do for people with bad hands, shaking or wrist problems. I 
>>> myself can do it, but I cannot turn back. I have to go completely through 
>>> my rotor settings after using one to find a previous one. No understanding 
>>> of why. My wrist just won't go left. Anyway, if they work on this problem 
>>> and hook the answer to VO I think it can only make the iPhone experience 
>>> even better for more people.
>>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Switch controls do not work with VoiceOver, so that option is out.
>>> If you cannot double tap with two fingers because of a tremor disorder, 
>>> maybe kissing the phone twice is a good way to go.
>>> Maybe, just maybe, with iOS 13 Apple will finally allow switch controls 
>>> with VoiceOver.
>>> I've complained about this from day one as some of our clients cannot use 
>>> iPhones because of tremors and switch controls are out because they also 
>>> have to have VoiceOver.
>>> The old between a rock and a hard place.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com “The Hitch Hiker's Guide 
>>> to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an 
>>> art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
>>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
>>> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>> 
>>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they 
>>> don't have any." -- Alice Walker
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 8:09 AM, Marie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> This might be a case where the user would benefit more from the Choice 
>>>> commands rather than voiceover. I would look into that possibility for the 
>>>> future. For now, I can’t see a solution.
>>>> 
>>>> From: Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 5:54 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: Ending a call with Siri?
>>>> 
>>>> Pushing the sleep power button does not hang up the phone. I just 
>>>> confirmed that by calling my office and when the answering machine 
>>>> answered, pressing the power button did nothing.
>>>> It would appear that either touching the end call button with one finger 
>>>> and double tapping, or using the two finger double tap are the only ways 
>>>> to hang up the call if VoiceOver is on.
>>>> 
>>>> I am fairly sure Siri cannot help here.
>>>> This would be a good thing to point out to Apple, both through Apple 
>>>> Accessibility and through the feedback form on their web site.
>>>> Given their plans to make iOS 13 more useable for people with physical 
>>>> disabilities maybe they could do something about this.
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com “The Hitch Hiker's Guide 
>>>> to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an 
>>>> art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
>>>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
>>>> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>>> 
>>>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they 
>>>> don't have any." -- Alice Walker
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 5:41 AM, Chris Chaffin <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Could be wrong, but doesn't hitting the sleep / power button hang up a 
>>>>> call?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 8:20 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m helping a lady with very little sight and Parkinson’s: she struggles 
>>>>>> to tap or swipe, so I set up her iphone 7 with VoiceOver on, no 
>>>>>> passcode, raise to wake on and iPhone set to automatically answer calls 
>>>>>> after 5 seconds and she can use Hey Siri to make calls. What she’s just 
>>>>>> found is that, if the number she calls goes onto voicemail, she has no 
>>>>>> way to end the call! She can manage to single click or hold down the 
>>>>>> Home button, but the two-fingerdouble-tap is too hard. I hadn’t realised 
>>>>>> that it is impossible to summon Siri during a phone call. Does anyone 
>>>>>> know how she might end a phone call?
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Harry
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