Mr. Ed, So where is that side switch setting you mentioned? Richard
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Mr. Ed -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 2:35 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: Ending a call with Siri? Man, while ago, my sighted husband wanted some help with his Android. Poor guy, I tried to help from what I know with iPhone, but I think he ended up figuring out what he needed, after accidentally calling his nephew. Best regards, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Worrell Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 12:48 PM To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: Ending a call with Siri? Hello, You have to turn off the double click side/lock button in settings. Then it works without any issues. Ed On Jun 12, 2019, at 10:05 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I think that used to work on some of the older phones, but it does not now, you say there is no reason why it shouldn't work, but then again there really is no reason why it should if Apple doesn't set it up this way. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Ed Worrell Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 9:18 AM To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: Ending a call with Siri? I remember seeing somewhere that you can double press the lock button and it will hang up a phone call. I believe it works with VoiceOver. There is no reason why it shouldn’t work. Ed W. On Jun 12, 2019, at 10:01 AM, regina alvarado <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: This is an interesting and timely problem. I have a friend who got her screen curtain on but could not do the three finger triple tap to get it off. I know this was anxiety and perhaps a little frustration mixed in because when she put down the phone overnight just like that the next morning she tried on a whim and it went off. However, during the time she was having trouble because she had put on assisted touch I began trying to figure out how to make a new gesture for her in assistive touch. When I called Apple Accessibility about the problem,after I failed myself to help, they told me assistive touch is not hooked (wrong word, but not sure what the word is, to VO. It didn't make sense to me because people who are blind sometimes have difficulty with their hands just like sighted people. They told me there was no way to help the situation, but when I pointed out the problem she said she would absolutely put the problem of assistive touch to the engineers. So, no way of knowing if there may be a solution, but at least they are looking into it. The rotor and the twist is another really hard gesture to do for people with bad hands, shaking or wrist problems. I myself can do it, but I cannot turn back. I have to go completely through my rotor settings after using one to find a previous one. No understanding of why. My wrist just won't go left. Anyway, if they work on this problem and hook the answer to VO I think it can only make the iPhone experience even better for more people. On Jun 12, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Richard Turner <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Switch controls do not work with VoiceOver, so that option is out. If you cannot double tap with two fingers because of a tremor disorder, maybe kissing the phone twice is a good way to go. Maybe, just maybe, with iOS 13 Apple will finally allow switch controls with VoiceOver. I've complained about this from day one as some of our clients cannot use iPhones because of tremors and switch controls are out because they also have to have VoiceOver. The old between a rock and a hard place. Richard Check out my web site at: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C75516c2d6c1144bf579c08d6f039f1bb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636960528988320561&sdata=wMOcbGjtdeRA%2FN6kB295TkWUf4kBIGvFzRTCyLxj%2BV0%3D&reserved=0 “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59 The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker On Jun 12, 2019, at 8:09 AM, Marie <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: This might be a case where the user would benefit more from the Choice commands rather than voiceover. I would look into that possibility for the future. For now, I can’t see a solution. From: Richard Turner Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 5:54 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Ending a call with Siri? Pushing the sleep power button does not hang up the phone. I just confirmed that by calling my office and when the answering machine answered, pressing the power button did nothing. It would appear that either touching the end call button with one finger and double tapping, or using the two finger double tap are the only ways to hang up the call if VoiceOver is on. I am fairly sure Siri cannot help here. This would be a good thing to point out to Apple, both through Apple Accessibility and through the feedback form on their web site. Given their plans to make iOS 13 more useable for people with physical disabilities maybe they could do something about this. Richard Check out my web site at: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C75516c2d6c1144bf579c08d6f039f1bb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636960528988320561&sdata=wMOcbGjtdeRA%2FN6kB295TkWUf4kBIGvFzRTCyLxj%2BV0%3D&reserved=0 “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59 The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker On Jun 12, 2019, at 5:41 AM, Chris Chaffin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Could be wrong, but doesn't hitting the sleep / power button hang up a call? Chris On Jun 12, 2019, at 8:20 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I’m helping a lady with very little sight and Parkinson’s: she struggles to tap or swipe, so I set up her iphone 7 with VoiceOver on, no passcode, raise to wake on and iPhone set to automatically answer calls after 5 seconds and she can use Hey Siri to make calls. What she’s just found is that, if the number she calls goes onto voicemail, she has no way to end the call! She can manage to single click or hold down the Home button, but the two-fingerdouble-tap is too hard. 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