If using fingers is a problem, the Rivo is out. I am waiting for ios 13 beta to assess voice control?
> On 18 Jun 2019, at 17:41, Traci Duncan <[email protected]> wrote: > > I don’t know much about the device, but with the Rivo be helpful in a > situation like this? > > Traci > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 13, 2019, at 3:28 PM, Carolyn Arnold <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> We talked about that today. I think we got the fifty dollars worth out of >> the little white LG, but, he loves his iPad Pro. I think he'd like an iPhone >> better, and things that I know how to do like edit a contact, I could surely >> tell him. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Carolyn >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Mr. Ed >> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 4:02 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Ending a call with Siri? >> >> Hi Carolyn, >> Tell your husband to get a real phone and get an iPhone. >> Mr. Ed >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Carolyn Arnold >> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 2:35 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Ending a call with Siri? >> >> Man, while ago, my sighted husband wanted some help with his Android. Poor >> guy, I tried to help from what I know with iPhone, but I think he ended up >> figuring out what he needed, after accidentally calling his nephew. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Carolyn >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Ed Worrell >> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 12:48 PM >> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Ending a call with Siri? >> >> Hello, >> >> You have to turn off the double click side/lock button in settings. >> >> Then it works without any issues. >> >> Ed >> >>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 10:05 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I think that used to work on some of the older phones, but it does not now, >>> you say there is no reason why it shouldn't work, but then again there >>> really is no reason why it should if Apple doesn't set it up this way. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >>> Ed Worrell >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 9:18 AM >>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: Ending a call with Siri? >>> >>> I remember seeing somewhere that you can double press the lock button and >>> it will hang up a phone call. I believe it works with VoiceOver. There is >>> no reason why it shouldn’t work. >>> >>> Ed W. >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 10:01 AM, regina alvarado <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> This is an interesting and timely problem. I have a friend who got her >>>> screen curtain on but could not do the three finger triple tap to get it >>>> off. I know this was anxiety and perhaps a little frustration mixed in >>>> because when she put down the phone overnight just like that the next >>>> morning she tried on a whim and it went off. However, during the time she >>>> was having trouble because she had put on assisted touch I began trying to >>>> figure out how to make a new gesture for her in assistive touch. When I >>>> called Apple Accessibility about the problem,after I failed myself to >>>> help, they told me assistive touch is not hooked (wrong word, but not sure >>>> what the word is, to VO. It didn't make sense to me because people who are >>>> blind sometimes have difficulty with their hands just like sighted people. >>>> They told me there was no way to help the situation, but when I pointed >>>> out the problem she said she would absolutely put the problem of assistive >>>> touch to the engineers. So, no way of knowing if there may be a solution, >>>> but at least they are looking into it. The rotor and the twist is another >>>> really hard gesture to do for people with bad hands, shaking or wrist >>>> problems. I myself can do it, but I cannot turn back. I have to go >>>> completely through my rotor settings after using one to find a previous >>>> one. No understanding of why. My wrist just won't go left. Anyway, if they >>>> work on this problem and hook the answer to VO I think it can only make >>>> the iPhone experience even better for more people. >>>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Switch controls do not work with VoiceOver, so that option is out. >>>> If you cannot double tap with two fingers because of a tremor disorder, >>>> maybe kissing the phone twice is a good way to go. >>>> Maybe, just maybe, with iOS 13 Apple will finally allow switch controls >>>> with VoiceOver. >>>> I've complained about this from day one as some of our clients cannot use >>>> iPhones because of tremors and switch controls are out because they also >>>> have to have VoiceOver. >>>> The old between a rock and a hard place. >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> >>>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com “The Hitch Hiker's Guide >>>> to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an >>>> art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in >>>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas >>>> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59 >>>> >>>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they >>>> don't have any." -- Alice Walker >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 8:09 AM, Marie <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This might be a case where the user would benefit more from the Choice >>>>> commands rather than voiceover. I would look into that possibility for >>>>> the future. For now, I can’t see a solution. >>>>> >>>>> From: Richard Turner >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 5:54 AM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: Ending a call with Siri? >>>>> >>>>> Pushing the sleep power button does not hang up the phone. I just >>>>> confirmed that by calling my office and when the answering machine >>>>> answered, pressing the power button did nothing. >>>>> It would appear that either touching the end call button with one finger >>>>> and double tapping, or using the two finger double tap are the only ways >>>>> to hang up the call if VoiceOver is on. >>>>> >>>>> I am fairly sure Siri cannot help here. >>>>> This would be a good thing to point out to Apple, both through Apple >>>>> Accessibility and through the feedback form on their web site. >>>>> Given their plans to make iOS 13 more useable for people with physical >>>>> disabilities maybe they could do something about this. >>>>> Richard >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com “The Hitch Hiker's Guide >>>>> to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an >>>>> art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in >>>>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas >>>>> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59 >>>>> >>>>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they >>>>> don't have any." -- Alice Walker >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 5:41 AM, Chris Chaffin <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Could be wrong, but doesn't hitting the sleep / power button hang up a >>>>>> call? >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 8:20 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I’m helping a lady with very little sight and Parkinson’s: she >>>>>>> struggles to tap or swipe, so I set up her iphone 7 with VoiceOver on, >>>>>>> no passcode, raise to wake on and iPhone set to automatically answer >>>>>>> calls after 5 seconds and she can use Hey Siri to make calls. What >>>>>>> she’s just found is that, if the number she calls goes onto voicemail, >>>>>>> she has no way to end the call! She can manage to single click or hold >>>>>>> down the Home button, but the two-fingerdouble-tap is too hard. I >>>>>>> hadn’t realised that it is impossible to summon Siri during a phone >>>>>>> call. Does anyone know how she might end a phone call? >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> Harry >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>>>>> list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>>>>>> itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached >>>>>>> at: [email protected]. 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