I just went to the site but all I found was a short video, some of the venues using the system and a button which is labeled, Join our revolution. This produces absolutely nothing, with either Jaws or NVDA.
This on a Win 10 1809, latest Jaws or NVDA?

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 9:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: the right hear app


Perhaps checking out the web site will answer most of the questions:
https://right-hear.com/




On Jul 1, 2019, at 9:37 PM, Julie Dawson <[email protected]> wrote:

I don't understand about the purchasing of beacons. Are the beacons then accessed through the app or applied to your account somehow?
With thanks,
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Do you get some beacons with the app before purchase? It doesn't say in app purchases.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Tali Sarnetzky" <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: the right hear app


Hi everyone.

I presented your questions to my friends at Right Hear.
As Siegert said, the recording and labelling of places works when you
get a GPS accuracy of under eight meters, which means it works best
outside, in the Outdoors mode of the app. This can be useful when you
learn a new route and need to label certain spots. You can record any
text you wish, such as info about intersections you need to cross, the
locations of bus stops, etc.

At the moment, the app works with a specific type of beacon, so it is
best to purchase such beacons through the company. My friend told me a
few beterans in the States have already done this to lable spots in
their own house or workplace. There is a plan to offer support for
more kinds of beacons in the near future, so it is just a matter of
time.
When you purchase beacons, you work through a website to enter the
info you want and they are working all the time to make sure this part
of the website is accessible as well.

In a couple of weeks, they are going to have a few webinars of
questions and answers. I will post the dates and links as soon as I
can. And as I have said before, they love hearing suggestions and
getting feedback. From day one they have had the user's experience in
first priority and that's why I love working with them.

Cheers,
Tali



On 7/1/19, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
Sandy,

At first when I recorded a label I thought it didn???t record anything but
then I realized that when I tapped on my recording that it did speak my
recorded word, but in a very low volume

From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: the right hear app

does anyone know what this means?

what is the focus with voice-over thing about?
Sent from The dark side of the moon

On 1 Jul 2019, at 17:07, Sieghard Weitzel
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I just downloaded this app and it looks very interesting, clean and simple.
The record button is right there (no pun intended) on the main screen.
All you have to do is to double tap on it to record a location. Keep in mind
that this only works if your GPS accuracy is at least 8 metres or better,
but it will tell you if it is not.
You can later on double tap and hold the recordings button if you want to
see a list of your recordings/locations.
Looks like this app uses information from Open Street maps which
unfortunately often can be quite outdated. For example, it shows the ???Hill Top Pub??? which is supposed to be about 400 metres away except that this pub
has been closed for about 3 years.
Considering this is a free app which allows for turn by turn navigation to
an address or location as well as providing nearby information and so on
this is a nice app to have for people who don???t want to pay for Seeing Eye
or Nearby Explorer.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of
Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 7:56 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: the right hear app

The instructions says that you can record something via the menu....How do you get to the area to record an item or area that you want to use at a
later time?

From: Dan<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:13 AM
To: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: the right hear app


I can see  use for the beacons in an unfamiliar very large environment.
However, if it is a commonly visited place and you have the time and help
you could just go to places within the site and record a label and then the app would recognize it from then on when you visit again. When I tried it it actually got me within a few feet if I missed it. I am considering using it for when I am working in the yard. I can drop a tool or bag of tools or
whatever.  I can then record the label for that location and if I need to
get back to that bag of tools I can rotate the phone until I hear "bag of
tools" or whatever I labeled it and then walk to it.



Since I have taken to using my cane in the yard to avoid the toys and other debris my grandchildren move around getting within a few feet should allow
me to find the item with my cane.



Interesting app indeed.



Dan Beaver
On 7/1/2019 9:17 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone wrote:

hi Tali,



   Thanks for jumping in here. It seems to me that there are, at least, 2
possible use options for RightHear. 1. in large public spaces, airports,
railway stations, hospitals, hotels etc. 2. Domestic use, as expressed here,
labelling the post box, a particular tree as a landmark, gates etc. Could
you comment on how this latter option might be acquired by some of us? I,
for example, live on an acre of land, in rural ireland, and would love to be able to label and find different landmarks outside of my house, would this be possible?i might also want to take these same labels with me on holiday and use them there, with new info recorded on them, would this be something
I could easily do? Also, what kind of range will they cover and are they
weatherproof?



   Sorry if this puts pressure on you, but i am very interested in the
answers!!



Sandy.



Sent from The dark side of the moon



On 1 Jul 2019, at 12:56, Tali Sarnetzky mailto:[email protected]
wrote:



Hi everyone.



I have the pleasure of working with these developers on the Right Hear

app and, as said before, it works with beacons within buildings to

provide information. It also shows a list of places that have this

accessibility feature in them, allows you to get directions to the

place or use an Uber-like service to get to an accessible venue, and

call someone for help if you are lost within the venue.

They work ceaselessly on making it a better app and always welcome

suggestions and feedback from users. They also hope to venture out of

Israel and offer accessible venues in other countries. (This is

getting implemented as we speak.)



Cheers,

Tali



On 7/1/19, Richard Turner mailto:[email protected] wrote:



Hi Sandy,

Thanks for the explanation and the belief that I'm not often confused,

grin.

Sieghard had found information on their web site, which I didn't think to
go

investigate. I kind of assumed that it would have been in the app store

description.

But, yes, bluetooth beacons have been around for several years now.

I just wish all the different approaches would come together into one

standard.

Blind Square was one of the earlier apps that I recall having worked out

navigating this way for indoor navigation, though there were others before

them.

Now the American Printing House for the Blind is working on them and these

Right Hear folks, etc.

I know mainly that the United States is way behind other countries in

adopting this kind of technology.

However, some airports have begun using them.

I had read about San Francisco having 500 beacons in one of their terminals

so that a person who is visually impaired with the right app, (no memory of

which app) could even find an outlet to recharge their devices.

I think this would be perfect for places like museums, etc. I know some

malls have them, and maybe one day they will be more wide spread.

Later,

Richard





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On Jul 1, 2019, at 3:24 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe

<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:



  Hi all, this Righthear App, how far can you be to locate an object??  I

just came home from the deep woods of New Hampshire and this may have been
a

good tool for me to have. How would this differ from a wireless door bell

system? Andy and Shubert



From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhonemailto:[email protected]

Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 4:55 AM

To:
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>mailto:[email protected]

Subject: Re: the right hear app



Richard, (the  often  confused? Close brackets never!

I understand that the labels are real and not virtual. if I remember

correctly, as I was researching this about a year ago, but got distracted

by other technologies along the way,  The initial idea was to implement

these tags by way of consenting businesses/services et cetera, to make

public spaces more navigable. I asked them if I, as an individual, could

obtain beacons and implement them for myself. they thought this would be

possible, but then I moved onto other things and forgot about it. by the

way, my current and most favourite toy is the Sunu band. this works with

Sonar  rather than Bluetooth. but back to RightHear, they are very

approachable, and  seek  to get new partners to work with, in different

countries. I will take  a trawl  through my zillions of old emails, never

deleted, and see if I can find some of my old correspondence. but the main

thing is this, in theory at least, this solution is much more accurate and

is much more suitable for micro navigation, such as that which was raised

in the original email, to find trees, postboxes, gates et cetera, Than GPS.

We do seem to be in a particular point in time when many potential
solutions

abound, but none are quite perfected. Potential is exciting, but actuality

is much more  satisfying!

Sandy.



Sent from The dark side of the moon



On 1 Jul 2019, at 00:28, Richard Turner

<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:



Maybe Sandy will chime in on this. I also downloaded it and there are no

physical tags, so maybe I misunderstood her and the label was a virtual
one,

and not a physical one.

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On Jun 30, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Dan

<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>mailto:dbeaver888@gmailcom>
wrote:





I downloaded and installed this app and tried it out.  It doesn't seem to

allow stationary labels that the app will track. What it does is allow one

to record a voice and text label for a given GPS location.  After doing
that

it includes that location in its list of near by locations.  Using these

recorded locations I think it would get a person to within a few feet of
the

spot from what I can tell after trying it.





It also looks like you have to be at a given location in order to record a

label for that location.





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