On 7/1/19, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
Sandy,
At first when I recorded a label I thought it didn???t record anything
but
then I realized that when I tapped on my recording that it did speak my
recorded word, but in a very low volume
From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: the right hear app
does anyone know what this means?
what is the focus with voice-over thing about?
Sent from The dark side of the moon
On 1 Jul 2019, at 17:07, Sieghard Weitzel
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I just downloaded this app and it looks very interesting, clean and
simple.
The record button is right there (no pun intended) on the main screen.
All you have to do is to double tap on it to record a location. Keep in
mind
that this only works if your GPS accuracy is at least 8 metres or better,
but it will tell you if it is not.
You can later on double tap and hold the recordings button if you want to
see a list of your recordings/locations.
Looks like this app uses information from Open Street maps which
unfortunately often can be quite outdated. For example, it shows the
???Hill
Top Pub??? which is supposed to be about 400 metres away except that this
pub
has been closed for about 3 years.
Considering this is a free app which allows for turn by turn navigation
to
an address or location as well as providing nearby information and so on
this is a nice app to have for people who don???t want to pay for Seeing
Eye
or Nearby Explorer.
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of
Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 7:56 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: the right hear app
The instructions says that you can record something via the
menu....How
do you get to the area to record an item or area that you want to use at
a
later time?
From: Dan<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:13 AM
To: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: the right hear app
I can see use for the beacons in an unfamiliar very large environment.
However, if it is a commonly visited place and you have the time and help
you could just go to places within the site and record a label and then
the
app would recognize it from then on when you visit again. When I tried
it
it actually got me within a few feet if I missed it. I am considering
using
it for when I am working in the yard. I can drop a tool or bag of tools
or
whatever. I can then record the label for that location and if I need to
get back to that bag of tools I can rotate the phone until I hear "bag of
tools" or whatever I labeled it and then walk to it.
Since I have taken to using my cane in the yard to avoid the toys and
other
debris my grandchildren move around getting within a few feet should
allow
me to find the item with my cane.
Interesting app indeed.
Dan Beaver
On 7/1/2019 9:17 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone wrote:
hi Tali,
Thanks for jumping in here. It seems to me that there are, at least, 2
possible use options for RightHear. 1. in large public spaces, airports,
railway stations, hospitals, hotels etc. 2. Domestic use, as expressed
here,
labelling the post box, a particular tree as a landmark, gates etc. Could
you comment on how this latter option might be acquired by some of us? I,
for example, live on an acre of land, in rural ireland, and would love to
be
able to label and find different landmarks outside of my house, would
this
be possible?i might also want to take these same labels with me on
holiday
and use them there, with new info recorded on them, would this be
something
I could easily do? Also, what kind of range will they cover and are they
weatherproof?
Sorry if this puts pressure on you, but i am very interested in the
answers!!
Sandy.
Sent from The dark side of the moon
On 1 Jul 2019, at 12:56, Tali Sarnetzky mailto:[email protected]
wrote:
Hi everyone.
I have the pleasure of working with these developers on the Right Hear
app and, as said before, it works with beacons within buildings to
provide information. It also shows a list of places that have this
accessibility feature in them, allows you to get directions to the
place or use an Uber-like service to get to an accessible venue, and
call someone for help if you are lost within the venue.
They work ceaselessly on making it a better app and always welcome
suggestions and feedback from users. They also hope to venture out of
Israel and offer accessible venues in other countries. (This is
getting implemented as we speak.)
Cheers,
Tali
On 7/1/19, Richard Turner mailto:[email protected] wrote:
Hi Sandy,
Thanks for the explanation and the belief that I'm not often confused,
grin.
Sieghard had found information on their web site, which I didn't think to
go
investigate. I kind of assumed that it would have been in the app store
description.
But, yes, bluetooth beacons have been around for several years now.
I just wish all the different approaches would come together into one
standard.
Blind Square was one of the earlier apps that I recall having worked out
navigating this way for indoor navigation, though there were others
before
them.
Now the American Printing House for the Blind is working on them and
these
Right Hear folks, etc.
I know mainly that the United States is way behind other countries in
adopting this kind of technology.
However, some airports have begun using them.
I had read about San Francisco having 500 beacons in one of their
terminals
so that a person who is visually impaired with the right app, (no memory
of
which app) could even find an outlet to recharge their devices.
I think this would be perfect for places like museums, etc. I know some
malls have them, and maybe one day they will be more wide spread.
Later,
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On Jul 1, 2019, at 3:24 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi all, this Righthear App, how far can you be to locate an object?? I
just came home from the deep woods of New Hampshire and this may have
been
a
good tool for me to have. How would this differ from a wireless door
bell
system? Andy and Shubert
From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhonemailto:[email protected]
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 4:55 AM
To:
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>mailto:[email protected]
Subject: Re: the right hear app
Richard, (the often confused? Close brackets never!
I understand that the labels are real and not virtual. if I remember
correctly, as I was researching this about a year ago, but got
distracted
by other technologies along the way, The initial idea was to implement
these tags by way of consenting businesses/services et cetera, to make
public spaces more navigable. I asked them if I, as an individual, could
obtain beacons and implement them for myself. they thought this would be
possible, but then I moved onto other things and forgot about it. by the
way, my current and most favourite toy is the Sunu band. this works with
Sonar rather than Bluetooth. but back to RightHear, they are very
approachable, and seek to get new partners to work with, in different
countries. I will take a trawl through my zillions of old emails, never
deleted, and see if I can find some of my old correspondence. but the
main
thing is this, in theory at least, this solution is much more accurate
and
is much more suitable for micro navigation, such as that which was
raised
in the original email, to find trees, postboxes, gates et cetera, Than
GPS.
We do seem to be in a particular point in time when many potential
solutions
abound, but none are quite perfected. Potential is exciting, but
actuality
is much more satisfying!
Sandy.
Sent from The dark side of the moon
On 1 Jul 2019, at 00:28, Richard Turner
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:
Maybe Sandy will chime in on this. I also downloaded it and there are no
physical tags, so maybe I misunderstood her and the label was a virtual
one,
and not a physical one.
Richard, the often confused
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On Jun 30, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Dan
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>mailto:dbeaver888@gmailcom>
wrote:
I downloaded and installed this app and tried it out. It doesn't seem to
allow stationary labels that the app will track. What it does is allow
one
to record a voice and text label for a given GPS location. After doing
that
it includes that location in its list of near by locations. Using these
recorded locations I think it would get a person to within a few feet of
the
spot from what I can tell after trying it.
It also looks like you have to be at a given location in order to record
a
label for that location.
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