Oh man, now I really want an ipad, grin.
I've been trying to squelch that wish but I may not make it!
Patti 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kristeen Hughes
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 9:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

I have lost VO only once by using this reset, and that was because I got
distracted and ended up holding it for about twenty seconds. I think there
is a timing limit. However, with both the Ipad 3 and the iPhone 5, VO can be
brought back with the tripple-click of the home key. I got an iPad 3 and out
of the box the tripple-click worked. I then tried it with the iPhone 5 and
this was also the case. No longer is sighted help or a computer connection
necessary. This seems to now be built in by default. I like it!


On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote:

> David,
> 
> I have to admit that I have not used this reboot procedure more than maybe
a couple of times, yet I have not encountered this issue. So, is there any
particular pattern to reproducing the problem? FOr example, rebooting
repeatedly (within a period of time) such as maybe every five minutes for 10
times etc.? Perhaps rebooting the phone more than once a week? Also, is
there any particular app that has caused the condition which necessitated a
reboot? I am curious if there is in fact some pattern or application that
may be the cause for the loss of speech etc. when the phone is rebooted
using this technique.
> 
> On Oct 9, 2012, at 5:27 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> 
>> I have now lost VO one time using this technique out of seven times I
have used the technique on my iPhone 5. In addition to losing VO, my braille
display would not connect after I started VO with iTunes. Also, VO was set
to factory defaults. I had to do another power home reboot before the
braille display drivers would load properly again. This is a fascinating
little bug.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 09/10/2012, at 22:09, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have to agree I have not lost VO as a result of using this reset
technique.
>>> 
>>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 12:05 AM, Katey Glass <katey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have used holding the power button and home button to reset the
iPhone and iPad many times and I havne't lost VO ever.  Maybe reset is not
the proper phrase as we are not technically resetting any settings, but
rather just clearing out memory "cobwebs" on the phone or pad.  
>>>> 
>>>> At any rate, I have indeed held both power button and home button and
waited 10 seconds an d the device comes back talking.  
>>>> 
>>>> Katey
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:42 PM, "Kathy Blackburn" <kblac...@austin.rr.com>
wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I wrote to accessibil...@apple.com and was told that the hard re-set,
holding down the home and sleep/wake buttons at the same time, does indeed
result in loss of VoiceOver and does so by design. In order to get VoiceOver
back, you must either get sighted help or connect the phone to a computer
and re-enable VoiceOver using iTunes. Moral of story: power off only by
holding down sleep/wake until the slider appears and then double-tap.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kathy Blackburn
>>>>> kblac...@austin.rr.com
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